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Backyard Chickens: Vital Information if You're Just Starting Out

by: Jill Richardson

Sun May 03, 2009 at 05:36:18 AM PDT


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I met this lovely lady outside during lunch at the San Diego Cultivating Food Justice Conference. After lunch, I followed her and her three friends into the classroom to learn about taking care of backyard chickens.

Jill Richardson :: Backyard Chickens: Vital Information if You're Just Starting Out
The workshop began with chicken anatomy and show and tell. The speaker walked around with a very patient and good-natured Rhode Island Red, letting us all pet her and showing us things like where her ear lobes are.

The main take-aways here:
- Chickens vary in size (bantams are smaller than regular sized chickens and Jersey Giants really are giant chickens from New Jersey)
- Some chickens have spurs and some don't (some hens can have them, it's not just roosters)
- Chickens vary in other ways - different numbers of toes, feathers on their feet, different types of combs and wattles, etc, so if your chicken looks unique, it's not sick or deformed. At least, it probably isn't.
- Eggs and poop comes out the same hole, called a vent.

Then she came around again with this rather fed-up bantam Ameraucana (who behaved very well but was not happy to do so), showing us the chicken's crop. This is where food goes before it goes to the chicken's gizzard (stomach). It can feel kind of hard when it's full and she walked around and let us feel it. If your chicken's crop becomes impacted (which can happen), one way to tell is because the chicken begins losing weight - i.e. the chicken is not absorbing nutrients. To help your chicken out, she recommended bread with olive oil. Here are some good tips I found to try if this happens to your birds.

Also, once the food passes through the crop it reaches the gizzard. Because chickens do not have teeth they swallow grit which grinds their food (along with muscle contractions) in their gizzards. Therefore: as a good chicken parent you should make sure to provide your chickens with access to some appropriate grit.

Egg laying: It takes chickens about 4-6 months from birth to start laying eggs. Different chickens lay eggs at different frequencies but she said her 9 birds lay about 7 eggs a day between them. Also, the birds lay fewer eggs in the winter.

The next segment of the presentation went over chicken behavior. What struck me most was how charismatic they are. Chickens certainly do not think that they were put here on this earth for the purpose of being egg-laying machines, and I find it amazing and cruel that some humans have that idea.

First, pecking order is REAL and chickens (in some cases) WILL peck one another to death. Someone in the room said that if a bird is bleeding the others will go after it. If you see a bird bleeding, isolate it from the others until it heals.

Also, chickens will get bored. If they do, that's bad. Bored chickens find interesting things to do like peck one another. Lesson: make sure your chickens' lives are interesting with things like bugs to find and eat and dust baths, etc, so they don't get bored.

The speaker noted that the first time she saw her chicken taking a dust bath, she thought it was dead. Unfortunately, she was probably extremely sensitive to dying chickens at that time because she had just lost one. She got her chickens as adults from two different flocks. When she brought them together, each group had different germs and immunities. The result was two sick chickens and one casualty to date (most likely two, she said). Very sad. She says in the future she'll raise her chickens from chicks.

Also, she noted that when you integrate new chickens into your flock, do it at night. When they wake up, they'll figure the new chickens must have always been there. Likewise, if a hen is getting broody (i.e. wants to have some babies), if you stick some chicks under her during the night, when she wakes up she'll figure "They hatched!" She'll just kinda take it from there as the mama hen.

One more item on chicken behavior. She says people ask "Will they make noise?" and the answer is YES! She said one of her chickens gets really excited every time she lays an egg and wants to be congratulated for it. Apparently it's a very loud event. You can check out this site to help choose a breed of chicken that fits you (docile or not, frequency of egg laying, egg color, etc). Of course, just because a breed tends a certain way, that can't account for all individuals.

About chicken food, she said that chicken feed is labeled as starter, grower, layer, broiler, and finisher. Sadly enough, we label our chicken feed based on what we want the chicken to do. Baby chicks get starter, then grower. Layers get layer so they lay eggs. Broiler for the chickens headed for the oven, and finisher as the last thing they eat before we eat them.

She said the feed comes in a variety of forms but she gives her chickens pellets because chickens are messy eaters and the pellets are least likely to be wasted since they are big enough for the chickens to find them and pick them up again after dropping them. There's also chicken scratch (whole grains and cracked corn) as a treat, and you can feed your chickens FRESH kitchen scraps too. She said the key is FRESH because your chickens can get sick from spoiled food just like people can. And, of course, chickens will gladly eat any bugs they can find - including black widows. And if the chickens' diets are too poor, the eggs will have weak shells or no shells (and a no-shell egg might also indicate the chicken is sick). I found a great site on chicken feed here.

Regarding coops, she said there are a few essential elements your chickens need and that's about it. Beyond that, there's a lot that the world of coops has to offer and the choice is yours. You need a secure place where your chickens can go at night where they are safe from predators. You might also want a chicken run that is safe from predators too. A chicken run should provide at least 4 square feet per chicken, but the more space, the better.

Roosts: You need a place for them to roost that is ideally 18-24 inches off the ground. Use a rod that is 2 inches in diameter, or 1 inch for bantams. Give your birds 8 inches of space per bird on the roost. You can have more than one rung but be aware that all of the birds will be fighting for space on the top rung and nobody wants the bottom (it's part of the whole pecking order thing).

Nest boxes: You need a place for them to lay eggs. These should be 12x12x12 or 12x12x14 if your birds are a very large breed. She recommended bedding of some sort in the bottom so that the eggs won't crack. She uses pine shavings and someone in the audience said that he attaches a foam pad to the nesting box under the bedding too. She said your chickens will let you know if they don't like whatever material you use to line their nesting box - they'll kick it out of there very quickly.

That pretty much covers what I learned in the session, but I want to leave you with a great chicken site so you can get more information. And I am seriously considering moving east into the mountains so I can have some chickens.

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where would you move (4.00 / 7)
back east??
like you I so covet chickens.  

oh I wouldn't dream of leaving San Diego (4.00 / 6)
I'm just thinking of heading about 50 mi or less east of here, into the mountains. I've got 2 friends who live up there. It's like another world but they can still drive into san diego any time they want.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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If you do move (4.00 / 7)
be sure and check the local ordinances. I'm moving to  the mountains and was checking the animal laws there (I'm over the "limit" in many places) and discovered I couldn't have chickens or a clothesline! If I hadn't been checking, I would have def thought I could have both in that location.

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bwaaaak! (4.00 / 5)
excellent chicken info!

i read somewhere (sorry, i cannot remember where) that chickens lay at 25 hr intervals....
so they lay an hour later each day. when that hour goes into the night, they just miss that day & start over the next morning.

i've noticed mine don't lay for about 2 hrs before roosting time(which is about an hour before sunset). so if i don't have
an egg by 4-5pm i won't get one that day.


come firefly-dreaming with me....


I've found the same thing with mine (4.00 / 6)
as far as how late in the day they will lay.

As to the vocalizing (to put it mildly), most of our layers (white leghorns and California whites) are very vocal after laying, and they get pretty peeved if someone else is in their nest when they're ready to use it. We have around 25 of these type hens laying, and you definately don't want to be in the barn untill after 12:00 noon, when most of them have already laid for the day. I don't see how anyone could work in a commercial cage laying barn without ear protection as they use the same breeds we are using right now.

One thing I'll say about the leghorns and Cali whites is that they are very busy birds. Our aracaunas, astralorps and wyandots are pretty sedate birds. They're plenty active, but the white birds are downright hyper, except for siesta time in the afternoon, when everyone takes their dust and sun baths. The leghorns and Cali's are very behaviorally 'foreward'. They're gread problem solvers. Their motto seems to be - "To boldly go where no chicken has gone before". The hens seem to be more this way than the roosters. They're fascinating birds to work with.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


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Resources for chicken breeds (4.00 / 5)
Different breeds of chickens have different behaviors, egg laying characteristics, and preferences for how they are kept, as well as considerable variation in appearance. Your local conditions should be considered when choosing a breed: urban/rural, cold/hot, confined/free range, whether you have kids, how many eggs you want, etc.

Here is an excellent chart:
http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jh...



As it was, he did a deal with a blancmange, and the blancmange ate his wife.


I live in Portland, OR (4.00 / 5)
where backyard chickens are encouraged as part of sustainable living.  You can have three hens here without a permit.  And it is easy to get a permit to have more.  We are permitted for six hens.

We currently have five hens, four of whom were raised from chicks.  The older hen doesn't lay much any more so we get three to four eggs a day.

We call the noise around the time of laying an egg "Alert the Media!  An egg is being laid!"

Our girls get our kitchen scraps -- vegetable peelings, the seeds of bell peppers (deeeelicious), apple cores, left over rice and pasta, the heels of the bread.  One note -- raw potato peels are poisonous to chickens.  Cooked potato peels are alright, though.

One other note -- we have learned that some powdered garlic in their water helps if they catch cold.

The eggs our girls produce are sublime.  The whites are tender and delicate, the yolks almost orange in color and so tall in the pan compared to commercial eggs.  The flavor is amazing.

Oh, two of our chicks were an unusual breed, one the feed store recommended to us and which I will recommend to all.  Transylvanian Naked Necks -- they look like miniature ostriches but they are full of personality and are very good layers.


do you live in SE Portland? (4.00 / 4)
if so, there is a certain locavorian who longs for fresh hen fruit & would likely buy some from you!

come firefly-dreaming with me....

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Heh! (4.00 / 4)
Sales Agent RiaD!

:)


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I do live in SE Portland -- (4.00 / 2)
and would happily part with some eggs as a friendship gift.

I don't think selling them is permitted.


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Well, hello neighbor! (4.00 / 3)
Nice to "meet" you...

:)


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Want some eggs? (4.00 / 3)
We've got oodles.

Always nice to meet a local!


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Absolutely! (4.00 / 1)
I'd love some eggs, if youze all can spare a few...

:)

You're around here in SE?  I live in the Creston-Kenilworth neighborhood.  Maybe a quick meet-up one of these days?  

You bring the eggs, I'll buy the coffee?

I owe Joanne Rigutto a cup of coffee, too.  Maybe we can all take over the blog meet up one of these days...

:)


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No joke... (4.00 / 1)
I live in Creston-Kenilworth, too.  I'm the secretary of your neighborhood association!

Small world...

Yes, we should meet.  Are you near the Creston Cafe (purple, corner of Gladstone & 42nd)?  Or is another cafe preferable?


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Oh, wow! (4.00 / 1)
Yes, small world indeed.

I live a couple blocks from Creston Cafe, yet have never been there.  I've been meaning to, though...

That'll work for me.  When's good for you?


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And, I just joined the listserv. :) (4.00 / 2)
I'll be at the neighborhood association meeting next Tuesday...

You know what would be great around here?  A farmers' market of our own!

Or a community garden?  The empty patches on Francis between 34th and 36th, on both sides of the retirement home, seem like they could be put to some use there?


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We'll talk about this. (4.00 / 1)
The Presbyterian church has started a community garden -- and is amenable to hosting a farmer's market.  I'm organizing a crafts fair there on June 20.

You got time for coffee tomorrow?


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Sure... (4.00 / 1)
I'm off tomorrow, so anytime is good for me.  Just let me know when...

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Are your nekid necks (4.00 / 4)
Turkins?

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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I think they are sometimes called that (4.00 / 2)
because they look like little turkey/chicken mixes -- but there is no turkey in them.

They are wonderful birds.  And they like to be petted, believe it or not.


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I have (4.00 / 6)
still neglected my garden but I'm better with living things, both the woozles are still alive as is the five year old.  Oooh chickens.  :)  I love the idea of fresh eggs.  I hear they are so much fun and I had a friend from college YEARS ago selling the chicks and all the things you need to raise them, like "kits".  So strange.

Lovely post, thank you so much.


It's funny... (4.00 / 6)
I actually knew a family back in Jersey when I was in high school, they lived in a town that used to be 'country' but (like everywhere else in Jersey...) was quickly becoming suburbanized at that time.  

They were originally from NC and they kept chickens in the backyard (and a pig in the kitchen!), had a huge garden, etc.  Right around the time I knew them, they were having all kinds of problems with the town and the neighbors over the chickens (and nobody even knew by that time about the pig in the kitchen! lol...).  

I wasn't into food issues at the time, but now I do wonder how things turned out for them.  My friend stopped dating their daughter after a few months, and that was the last I ever heard about them.  They were in a town halfway across the state, anyways...

But it would be ironic if some of their neighbors who fought them on that in the mid-90's were now raising (or advocating for) chickens themselves, wouldn't it?


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