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Cloned Milk For Real - And Darn Proud of It (Or Not?)

by: Jill Richardson

Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 05:49:35 AM PDT


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Update: Well, apparently, PETA is NOT behind it. So I'm still not sure if it's serious or a joke.

I had a new ad submitted for this site. For the first time, somebody decided to go for my "premium" spot at the top of the page - $30 per week instead of the $15 that the two three ads you currently see cost. Off I went to approve the ad. I wanted the cash. Oh, believe me I wanted the cash. I almost didn't even look at the ad before clicking "Approve." But, what the hell, I decided. So I looked.

The ad was from CyClone Dairy ("Perfect Cows. Perfect Milk.") The site promises a brand of milk entirely from cloned cows. Was it a joke? I wondered. It had to be. How could it not be a joke? I went to their website and clicked around every single page, looking for proof - some form of proof - that they were a joke. Nothing. Nada.

This website is SO over the top. The argument is that they pick the very best cows, clone them, and thus guarantee the very best milk. They even add that products of clones don't have to be labeled, so if you want cloned milk you NEED to buy from CyClone. Ohhhh boy. I'm going to be ringing up Michael Hansen at Consumers Union to get his take on this first chance I get.

From the site:

Q:Are there any ethical issues about cloning?
A: No.

Best cows or not, nature never intended we strip genetic diversity out of a species. The Irish potato famine will show you that. Meiosis is one of the most brilliant creations nature gave us, and here we are, throwing that away.

A Google search came up with a piece by Food and Water Watch criticizing CyClone. One vote there for "It's not a joke." Then I looked to see who submitted the ad. An international PR firm called Edelman. "The 2009 PR Agency of the Year." I'll say. What really convinced me that this wasn't a joke, though, was a memory from BIO 2008, the international biotech convention I attended last year. In their panel on "New Media," the biotech folks were showing off a website they made about the beauty of cloning, admiring how it showed consumers how normal and beautiful cloning can be. Boy oh boy. These people are for real, aren't they?

Needless to say, I rejected the ad.

Jill Richardson :: Cloned Milk For Real - And Darn Proud of It (Or Not?)
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What do we call this? (4.00 / 7)
Frankenmilk?

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

One way or the other... (4.00 / 6)
They're still comedic geniuses.

Whether intentional, or not!


[ Parent ]
They HAVE to be kidding (4.00 / 6)
I couldn't resist clicking over to look.  The "about us" page says: "where we combine DNA with TLC"

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  Next, they'll be promoting chicken soup from their cloned chickens.


Protect our farms - Stop NAIS!  Go to http://FarmAndRanchFreedom.org for more information.


[ Parent ]
Heh... (4.00 / 3)
There actually is a persistence of "beef-coming soon!" promos scattered in odd places throughout the site -

"Gourmet cuts of tender beef, coming soon!"

That site is a treasure trove of quotes, though -

"From bio-tech to the breakfast table..."

and -

"The CloneZone - Fun Facts on Cloning!  Cows are way cool, and so is cloning!"


[ Parent ]
CyClone in a teacup! That's so gross! (4.00 / 6)
Eat a steak grown in a can and drink Cyclone milk: the future? I don't think so! This will turn everyone into vegetarians, a good thing.

Sic Transit Gloria Locavore!



Why not take their money... (4.00 / 6)
AND bash them?

Nothing wrong with that.  In fact, by taking their money here and looking critically at their organization it prevents them from spending that part of their ad budget somewhere else -- where the blog owner might not be more critical.

Take the money.  Nothing wrong with it.


I understand your sentiment (4.00 / 5)
but once you start taking people's money, it introduces the possibility of your becoming dependent on it. Jill's being financially vulnerable right now makes the timing especially suspect. And the ads a site runs affects how the readership views it. The ads are the first thing they see, and they don't move away from the front page, unlike diaries.

Stuff like "Surfing Goat Soaps" is cool; "CyClone Cows" is not. If I had seen this site for the first time and there was some damned cloned cow ad at the top, I might never have come back.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
It's like Utah Phillips once said (4.00 / 5)
He was in an ethical dilemma: basically, whether to give big-name singers permission to record the songs he wrote. He was an anarchist, Wobbly and supporter of small-time musical ventures as opposed to members of the entertainment-industrial complex like Vivendi and BMG-Bartlesmann (or their equivalents back when this was happening -- this was even before the RIAA became the Root Of All Evil), so he was opposed to allowing his songs to feed the Machine. But, it was potentially a lot of money, and undoubtedly well-meaning people kept telling him, "Think of all the good you could do with that money."

So one day he found himself in a room with Father Daniel Berrigan, and he resolved to ask Father Berrigan what he should do. He explained the situation, Father Berrigan heard him out, and then said simply, "It's amazing how much good people say you can do with dirty money."

That's assuming the ad is legitimate. If it's a big joke . . . well, I don't know, I come from a background where you're supposed to shun even the appearance of evil. There are probably other people like you who would look at something like that and just leave for good.

I have succumbed to the Twitter craze. @Omir55


[ Parent ]
it's a constant struggle (4.00 / 4)
and I am not really inclined to throw rocks at people who sell out - everyone has to find their own path for survival.

But at the same time, you will become something different if you follow that path, and that is irretrievable.

This blog has a big enough audience that you'd think we could make it without cloning ads. Cloning isn't the same as line-breeding or GM (which have their own problems), but as Jill points out, it is anathema to biodiversity. And Internet users are not noted for their ability to work out whether things are jokes are not. Since when do people pay to run joke ads, anyway? Not too likely. PETA seems to me much too serious an organization to put money into something like this where there was any risk of people taking it seriously.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
I checked into it (4.00 / 3)
and it wasn't PETA.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

[ Parent ]
not surprising n/t (4.00 / 2)


"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

[ Parent ]
Perhaps the cartons are marked (4.00 / 7)
"Skim Ethics" rather than "Skim Milk."

Cylon Dairy.


make that scum, and you're milked the cow for all she's worth. n/t (4.00 / 4)


[ Parent ]
mmgrmphahaha! (4.00 / 3)


come firefly-dreaming with me....

[ Parent ]
Sad but true, these people seem to be for real. (4.00 / 6)
Cloned meat and milk products are available these days.  Most of the products come not from cloned animals but from offspring of cloned animals.  The idea for producers is to get the maximum production out of a line of animals.  The advertising is all hype without real value of any sort.  This is one more way to lead the consumer astray.  Like another comment suggested, "Skim Ethics."

Peace.  


sounds like lab rats (4.00 / 4)
which are also bred for genetic similarity. Now that I think of it they probably clone them now. Since when is dinner supposed to be a science experiment?

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

[ Parent ]
It's how they prep us for the journe off earth. . . (4.00 / 5)
yesterday's sci-fi is tomorrow's dinner.

Soylent Green, anyone?


[ Parent ]
hey possum! (4.00 / 3)
are you the same possum that tells wonderful stories at dkos?

good to see you!!
welcome
♥~

come firefly-dreaming with me....


[ Parent ]
and who ran for Congress in DE? (4.00 / 1)
we really need to get Possum into the House.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

[ Parent ]
Kos is running the ad. (4.00 / 4)
Guess it's real ...  

DAMN (4.00 / 3)
those people have MONEY in that case. Ads on dKos cost a fortune.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

[ Parent ]
huh (4.00 / 3)
all the better, then, that you didn't snap at their bait. No pie fights here.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

[ Parent ]
That website... (4.00 / 5)
is terrifying.  All the pictures of shiny people looking vapid and drinking that cloned moo juice just freaks me out.  I had the biggest problem with the pregnant lady.

"I trust the perfect cows at CyClone Dairy to provide nothing but the best milk for me and my baby."   -Jill  

Just freaky.


From another site I read (4.00 / 5)
If the new ad on the right for cloned cows has you scratching your head, I'm told it's timely for April Fools.

The other site is a legal one, so whoever it is, they're getting around.


Good for you Jill! (4.00 / 5)
for turning this ad down. If the company is legit, you'd compromise your credibility, if the company is not legit, you might not get paid, and who ever is promoting Cyclone would have bragging rights for having pulled the wool over your eyes, and your credibility would be compromised as well.

I understand how strong the urge is to grab the cash, honest, I do, especially when the cash is so short.

Normal people scare me. But not as much as I scare them.....


how very oryx and crake (0.00 / 0)
and not in a good way.  shudder

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