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by: JayinPhiladelphia

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 19:00:00 PM PDT


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Mexican Ice Cream Recipe (4.00 / 4)
I posted this a while ago over on Kos, so I might as well duplicate it here!

One of the great benefits to using these ingredients is the house fills with intoxicating aromas that last for hours and hours.

  • 2 oz. raw cacao beans. This gives a pretty strong chocolate flavor. 1.5 oz. would work fine, depending on your taste.
  • 1/2 vanilla bean
  • 1 large cinnamon stick, enough to yield 1 tablespoon of powder when ground
  • 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
  • 1 cup heavy cream
  • 2 cups half and half
  • 3/4 cups sugar

Roast cacao beans on a cookie sheet in the oven for approx 25 minutes at 425°. Stir every five minutes, and reduce the temperature of the oven 25° after each stirring. When there are ten minutes roasting-time remaining, break the cinnamon stick into smaller pieces and add to the cookie sheet.

Pull the cookie sheet out and immediately grind the cinnamon in a spice grinder (coffee grinder). Remove and set aside. Let the cacao beans cool, then rub off the skins. Then grind the cacao beans in the grinder.

In a suitable saucepan, slowly heat the cream, vanilla bean, half & half and cinnamon until the temperature reaches 170°. Remove the vanilla bean, slit in two lengthwise, and scrape out the seeds. Return the vanilla bean and seeds to the cream mixture. When cool, place in refrigerator until cool enough to churn. Remove vanilla bean halves before churning.

When churning the ice cream, as soon as if gets reasonably solid, add the fresh cocoa powder slowly through a sifter into the mix.

Freeze and enjoy!


that sounds deadly (4.00 / 3)
I knew there was a reason I bought that spice grinder awhile back. It's like an upgraded coffee grinder; it's got more stainless steel and is overall I think mas fuerte.

Thanks for the link to the source for the beans. I ordered a packet and will try this out; much appreciated!

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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It's all a matter of perspective (4.00 / 3)
I was up at my one of my favorite stores today. A place that was way ahead of its time and is now struggling to survive. I showed a photo of Russia, the 200 lb. mascot of Auntie El's Farm Market on on Route 17 in Sloatsburg recently.

I don't get to speak with the owner much anymore but she was there today. I was reminding her that I used to drive up there regularly for farm fresh vegetables twenty-five years ago.

She said "It's a shame I do see you much anymore. Those Farmer's Markets in the city are killing me."  


sad but true (4.00 / 3)
And you have to differentiate yourself to compete. Here's what my favorite flour mill said "His only hope to keep the mill running another 270 years was to set Daisy apart from the lower-priced organic flours sold by larger companies"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...


I don't think it's sad (4.00 / 1)
it's the way life is. If you're out looking for a job, you have to differentiate yourself from everyone else out there who's applying for the same job. And, just as the employer probably doesn't want to take the first person who applies for a job, they want the best for that job, so too the employee, unless he/she is very desperate, probably doesn't want the first employer with an opening. The employers, in order to attract quality employees, need to differentiate themselves from other companies who might want to hire you.

When you're out looking to buy something, you're judging the products you're looking to buy against certain criteria. You probably don't just go up to the shelves and pick up the first item of that type that's in the line. I know I don't.

That competition is what drives innovation. It encourgages excellence instead of mediocrity. And, in the case of the flour mill, it's helping to preserve several types of heirloom wheat.

I think those are all good things.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


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I'm glad their working with heirloom wheats (4.00 / 2)
The wheat situation is quite dire in the US. I think it is probably 99.9% green-revolution wheat being grown these days.

They can save an appropriate collection of wheat and at the same time hopefully make some extra money. I feel very strongly that green-revolution wheat is not the right thing for organic growers. Old wheats were much taller and shaded out weeds. They also didn't depend on high doses of fertility. I signed up on their site for info when they become available.


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I don't know about profits (4.00 / 1)
but Daisy has so much business they can't keep up  

[ Parent ]
This is bugging me (4.00 / 3)
Attack of the Monsanto Superinsects

But now the pitches are wearing thin. Dumping a single herbicide onto millions of acres of farmland has, predictably enough, given rise to weeds resistant to that herbicide. Such "superweeds" are now galloping through cotton and corn country, forcing farmers to resort to highly toxic herbicide cocktails and even hand-weeding. More than 11 million acres are infested with Roundup-resistant weeds, up from 2.4 million acres in 2007, reckons Penn State University weed expert David Mortensen.

And now insects are developing resistance to Monsanto's insecticide-infused crops, reports the Wall Street Journal. Fields planted in Monsanto's Bt corn in some areas of the Midwest are showing damage from the corn rootworm-the very species targeted by Monsanto's engineered trait. An Iowa State University scientist has conclusively identified Bt-resistant root worms in four Iowa fields, the Journal reports.

The findings are not likely isolated to those fields-just like spotting a cockroach on your kitchen floor probably signals an infestation, not that a lone cockroach randomly stumbled in for a visit. Sure enough, farmers in Illinois are also seeing severe rootworm damage in fields planted in Monsanto's Bt corn. And it's not just in the United States: In 2010, Monsanto itself acknowledged that in industrial-agriculture regions of India, where Monsanto's Bt cotton is a dominant crop, a cotton-attacking pest called the bollworm had developed resistance.



The real big problem with BT tolerant or resistant insects (4.00 / 3)
is that now the organic growers are going to loose one of the few insecticides they're allowed to use. That'd piss me off to no end.

I heard one person in a blog somewhere else ask that the weeds and bugs not be referred to as 'superweeds' and 'superbugs'. I can understand where he was coming from. They're only 'superweeds' and 'superbugs' if you're using the chemicals or biologicals that they're resistant to or tollerant of. For instance, if you have something like chicken pox and survive, you are not a 'superhuman' because you're immune to that virus for the rest of your life. Just as the offspring of plants/animals receive immunity or resistance to what ever it was that their parents survived, be it glyphosate, BT, or any other control. It's not super, it's simply an organism that is delivering an evolutionary response to a changing environment. Which is one reason why I don't use antibacterial soaps, I try not to deworm my animals too often, etc. I don't want to cull all of the vulnerable pathogens, parasites, etc. Nothing's 100% and if we want our current controls to retain their efficacy, we need to make sure that there's a nice healthy pool of succeptable organisma around to reproduce and pass that vulnerability on to the next generation. We want to keep that resistance as diluted in the gene pool as possible.

I'm currently ruthlessly culling my goat herd. The strong and fast growing animals will live, the weak animals who have to be dewormed once a month are going to be killed. I won't even sell them to someone who wants a goat for a pet. Those animals who aren't strong enough to survive need to be removed from the gene pool. Instead of parasites doing it, I'm going to do it.

Unfortunately, with the constant heavy use of glyphosate, and crops that produce BT, farmers have done exactly the same ruthless culling of the weed plants and plant parasites/predators that I'm doing with my goats. Unfortunately, their culling program has delivered a less than desireable result. Can't really do this with the boll worms and root worms that the BT was supposed to kill, but at least with the weeds, it would have been nice if the farmers had gone out a week or so after spraying the field and pulled by hand the weeds the chemical didn't kill. That at least would have eliminated the genes for resistance that those individual plants were carrying. But the farmers must not have done that.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


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It was bound to happen sooner or later (4.00 / 1)
However, your comment is really excellent. Evolution is inevitable, but disruptive; rushing evolution is even more disruptive.  

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

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"Even hand-weeding?" (4.00 / 3)
Next thing you know, they'll be discovering hoes.

Also, there are cockroaches and there are cockroaches. American cockroaches don't infest like German cockroaches do. I usually pick up the American ones and throw them outside. I haven't ever had to deal with a German cockroach infestation, except once when my old tarantula society friend and I rented a house that was so infested with them that hundreds would fly in your face when you opened the front door.

We moved in, set out a lot of glue traps, brought in all of our steatode-infested furniture, etc. Problem soon abated. Was pretty amazing, really.  

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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National Heirloom Exposition (4.00 / 3)
Hadn't heard of this before. Sounds like a nice convention. Sept. 13-15

http://theheirloomexpo.com/


Locally Grown (4.00 / 2)
A phrase that presents profitable marketing opportunities. Never mind that your local produce has been shipped 700 miles.



Some stores do sell what most people would call local (0.00 / 0)
I know that the Fred Meyer in Canby, where I usually shop, sold produce from local farms last year. Not only did they have the locally grown sign on the displays, but, they also put the name and location of the farm on the display as well. Some of the farms were up in Washington state, others were from the Willamette Valley in Oregon. That store also has, every year, locally grown corn, when it's in season.

So, yah, I can see Safeway doing the same thing. One thing people also need to remember, is that when selling to these big chains, you have to produce a LOT of product to supply the store. In some cases you may be able to supply one store, in other instances they may want you to supply all the stores in a given area, which may require more production that some farms can deliver. Also, you have to provide your own labeling, PLU, etc. Since the mandatory inplementation of country of origin labeling, all produce has to be labeled. In some instances, such as mushrooms, the labeling can be on the product signage itself. Other produce is supposed to be individually labeled. Which is why most of the produce in the store has the little sticky labels on them. And a lot of the other produce, like leafy greens, have the COOL info on the ties or hang tags on the rubber bands.

For my farm, right now, I label the bags of micro greens I ship, but all the produce I just use generic bags and ties. Were I selling through a grocery store, I'd have to print up special labels, or for produce, I'd have to have a printing company print up special food safe labels, bags, tags, and ties. Unless I was able to have thousands of those printed at a time, it wouldn't be worth it. You gotta be fairly large to supply a store.

And then there's whe whole definition of local. How close do you have to be to be local? 25, 50, 75, 100, 200, 500 miles? Does it have to be in your state or can it be out of your state? How about if you live on the international border? If I'm in Washington state say, 20 miles from the border, and I buy carrots that were grown 30 miles from me would those be more local, even though they were international, than the carrots I might buy that were grown 50 miles away in the other direction?

I think that's one reason why Fred Meyer put the name of the farm and it's location on each product that was being promoted as local. That way, regardless of what the store or department managers thought, the customer could decide for themselves if the produce was local or not. I actually wrote a note to the produce manager of that store thanking him for doing that. It was nice.

So, just because a store is part of a big national chain, it doesn't mean that they don't or can't buy local.  

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


[ Parent ]
What Safeway is saying is a lie (4.00 / 1)
based on some silly USDA rule about what can be called local and what cannot be called local.

None of their fruit, for instance, is fresh. I happened to be at my local Safeway and almost all their fruit was labeled 'local'. That's because I;m in California, not because the fruit was local. They sell rock-hard peaches and nectarines and plums. They're picked before they're ripe and thrown in a refrigerated truck and shipped to a refrigerated warehouse where they're kept until they're shipped to the store. Even if they're picked only 200 miles from my location, they're still handles exactly the same, sit for the same amount of time, as if they came from Washington.

It's just marketing. And frankly it's dishonest.


[ Parent ]
Well (4.00 / 1)
unfortunately, local doesn't mean it was picked and then immediately shipped to the store. Local has to do with the distance from the farm to the store. That's it, that's all it means. Doesn't mean it's fresh, doesn't mean it was harvested vine ripe, doesn't mean it wasn't picked at what you or I would consider a local farm, then stored in a warehouse (either close by or at some distant location) and then shipped out to a store close to the farm.

And, as I said, local is completely subjective. One person's local is another's far away. I don't think that, as far as produce or meat goes, there's any kind of legal definition of local.

Have you talked to your produce manager and asked him/her exactly where the produce came from? That is, what farm(s)?

And of course it's marketing. What else would it be? A humanitarian program? Safeway's trying to set itself apart from other stores and I would hazard a guess, trying to pull market share back from farmers markets, local produce stands, etc.

But regardless, your best bet is to talk to the produce manager at your local store and ask what farm did the produce come from. what's the farm's location, and then you can know if the produce that's being marketed as local is actually (according to your specific criteria) local.

And considering the resale that goes on at a lot of farmers markets, some of that produce isn't local, it ain't even harvested by the farm's labor. But unless you ask, you won't ever know.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


[ Parent ]
I spent several years (4.00 / 2)
working for a small grocery store in Venice, California, that specialized in organically grown produce (this was before the federal standards were established, around 1998-2002).

We got a lot of stuff that was fragile. It was not picked rock hard, the strawberries weren't treated with fungicides, etc. I expect there were heirloom varieties involved, too.

We had to charge a lot for this produce, and we still had a lot of losses (the produce managers ate well, though, :-)

Our sources were to a great extent West Coast. We got a couple of deliveries a week. The fruit showed up in great shape, but our customers did not show up and buy it all up the same day, even though we bought in small quantities.

Again, it's all about consumer demand and responsibility. Providing excellent quality produce takes a lot of work and it does not magically just sit there and keep until people feel like buying it, 24/7/365. That is why square tomatoes were invented, that is why fruit is picked green.

Where I live, I can buy the best asparagus you can imagine, around February, for about $2 a bunch. Later in the year, it gets a lot more expensive, and it moves away from the delicate flavor you get with it when it's really fresh (when it's bad, it smells like bad fish!) Just one more example of this. And asparagus is grown around here, unlike some of the stone fruit.  

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
What farms? (4.00 / 1)
Have you talked to your produce manager and asked him/her exactly where the produce came from? That is, what farm(s)?

Safeway's produce comes from the Safeway warehouse. That's because they do their own distributing. The other semi-chain local supermarket's produce comes mostly from General Produce, which is a separate distribution company. Just because Safeway is vertically integrated doesn't mean their crap is any different or any better or any more local than any other supermarket-style produce. I suppose sometimes it is cheaper, but not usually

Safeway's cute little video claims they know the farm their stuff comes from but that's because their distribution arm contracted with the farmers. General produce contracts with farmers too. I'm sure the local produce manager could telephone General Produce and ask where those Santa Rosa plums came from, and they could tell them. But to what difference?

The non-Safeway's produce manager is allowed to carry actual, real local produce direct from our local growers from time to time, and that stuff is marked with our local "Lake County's FInest" sign.

Safeway's producer must only buy from the Safeway supply chain. None of their produce is really local. Maybe a load of Bartlett pears came from Lake county and was shipped to their warehouse in Davis, California and then shipped back to Lake County when the need arose.


[ Parent ]
One of the better points you make here (4.00 / 2)
is that big chains rely on large, very reliable supply chains. It's more complicated to work with a lot of small suppliers, than it is to work with a few larger ones.

This is also driven by consumer demand; people want to be assured that they can go to the store and buy any of many produce items, at whim, and that they be there and in good shape. The waste is incredible, too.

It's easy to blame the chains, and it's easy to blame the government; but the culture is what drives the whole economic system. Big corporations are more fragile than people think. They work with huge amounts of money and sales, but with very thin margins. It's possible to undermine them, but not as long as so many live in fear of doing business with their neighbors.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
The door swing both ways on supply chains (4.00 / 1)
One of the best things I ever did was to hook up with a distributor. The distributor serves two roles. One is to the store (or in my case the restaurants I serve through them) by supplying products on demand to those buyers. The other role they serve is to the farms by supplying multiple buyers or markets for us to sell into. Just as a restaurant, grocery or even produce stand may not want to have to deal with hundreds of suppliers, so to, a farmer may not want to have to supply multiple buyers ourselves.

So while the distributor provides product on the far end of the supply chain, they also provide markets on the starting end (to us producers) of the whole supply chain.

The other great thing I did was to join the food co-op. They essentially supply the same service as the distributor I work with. The difference, for me, is that instead of supplying me with a restaurant market, they supply me with individual consumers. It would cost me a lot in money and time to deliver to the people to whom I sell produce through the co-op, and I'd have to market to each individual.

Both the distributor and co-op cost me a little money, but their returns make them worth their weight in gold.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


[ Parent ]
both ways (0.00 / 0)
Now that you mention both ways, the co-op and your distributor probably are glad to have you as a supplier.

[ Parent ]
But there's no reason they should be deceiving (0.00 / 0)
to the dumb consumer about their product. Safeway's produce isn't local. It isn't farm fresh or any of the other 'lifestyle' marketing buzz they use.

[ Parent ]
caseyOR! (0.00 / 0)
You watching the Ducks game right now?  Just kicked off.

I'm still pleased with Rutgers' 48-0 win in their tune-up game on Thursday.  Sure, it was a gimme but they looked much better than in their opening game last year.

Savon Huggins, a Jersey kid (who picked RU over the dozens of other big-time programs that offered him a scholarship - our Jersey kids are starting to stay home, whoo!) and maybe our biggest recruit ever, ran for two touchdowns despite only getting the ball 10 times.

Sanu looked good as usual (he's almost certainly leaving early for the NFL draft after this season, some have him projected as a first round pick already), but at QB... eh.  Dodd looks serviceable, at best.  And there's no depth there, as Nova looked even worse.  May be a problem, but as long as the D holds and the running game and the O-Line step up (can't be any worse than last year) it looks like we can compete for the Big East crown and a BCS Bowl this year!

Should be fun, and either way Huggins is gonna be one of the best backs in all of college football by 2013.  Maybe even better than Ray Rice once was?


Yeah, I'm attaching it. What was up with that (4.00 / 1)
Ducks' fumble? If you can't catch the damn ball, don't play special teams!!

And all the Ducks' penalties.  I hope the boys settle down soon., or this ill be ugly. There is no excuse for all those penalties.

And, OMG, Notre Dame got their asses handed to them by USF  today. I thought Brian Kelly was going to stroke out on the sidelines. The weather delays added a certain drama to the day. Apparently this was the first time Notre Dame Stadium has ever had to be evacuated.  


[ Parent ]
I meant watching not attaching. (4.00 / 1)
This is what happens when you drink and type. Although I've only had the one beer.

[ Parent ]
Another whip kick penalty? WTF, Ducks. (4.00 / 1)
Those 15 yard personal fouls add up. Get a grip, guys.

[ Parent ]
TOUCHDOWN!!! (4.00 / 1)
That's how to play the game, Ducks.  More of this, please.

[ Parent ]
Yes... (0.00 / 0)
And please, more 8 minute drives like this this year Chip, plzkthxbai.   As they say on the internet.

Heh.

:)

Interesting stat, their longest drive all of last year was like 6:24.  That's why we lost the damned Rose Bowl and National Championship the past two years.  Scoring too quick.

And uggh, LSU takes a 16-13 lead into the half because we still don't have a defense that can stop anybody when it matters.  And LSU is scoring whenever they have to, even with like half of their starting lineup suspended.

This doesn't look good.  Time to regroup in the locker room, fellas.  Seriously.

If they lose this game, they don't even deserve to play in the Rose Bowl, if you ask me.  Even if they sweep the rest of the schedule, win the PAC-12 Championship Game and finish the season 12-1.  Seriously.  It's time to beat somebody outside the conference, guys.

I'm walking over to the taco truck for dinner.  Be back soon. :)


[ Parent ]
Wow... (0.00 / 0)
Season over.

Ducks are a joke.

LSU's second string is whooping them all over the field.  Ughh.

6-6 maybe, Las Vegas or Emerald Bowl at best.  This team ain't beating Nevada, Washington, Stanford, ASU or USC.


[ Parent ]
Standing still... (0.00 / 0)
They really were a gimmick, who have now been exposed.  The rest of the college football world has had a chance to study and catch up, and the Ducks just aren't that good.

Unfortunate truth.


[ Parent ]
Well, it could be worse... (0.00 / 0)
Oregon State lost to FCS Sacramento State!

Holy WTF Batman?!??!!

The Pac-12, feel the excitement!

Face palm...


[ Parent ]
Fail. (0.00 / 0)
Yeesh, Oregon wasn't even competitive after halftime, in getting whooped by a second string LSU team.  Absolutely pathetic.  No heart, no soul.  They laid down, cried and gave up.

Welcome to the life of a Rutgers fan!  Heh.

Well...

We're still in the title hunt!

Who's with me?

The National Championship is coming back home to The Birthplace of College Football this year, whoo!!!

:-D

(at least until we lose 29-13 to UNC next week...)


[ Parent ]
The Ducks did play badly tonight. (4.00 / 1)
The lose of the big guys like Casey Matthews has obviously hurt. The front line got totally pushed around by LSU.

And where was the energy, the zip? The Ducks were slow as molasses getting to the line and getting plays off.

Next week they play U. Nevada-Reno. I hope the Ducks can get thing spilled together by then. A loss to the Wolfpack would be very bad.

All the sportscaster and commentators are tiptoeing around the DeAnthony Thomas fumbles. I know he's a true freshman, but, seriously, two fumbles? Two that led to LSU TDs? Maybe the first gets written of to jitters, but the second, no way. He should have been clutching that ball like it was a kidney for his sick mother.

And don't get me started on the penalties. A well-coached team does not rack up those kind of penalties.


[ Parent ]
Having... (0.00 / 0)
...My Man Cliff Harris would have been nice.  Hopefully he won't be driving 118 miles an hour on a suspended license again, and we'll have him back at least for the start of conference play.

Chip Kelly still rules, love his press conferences.  :)

"Chip, is there a step you guys need to take win games like this against these kinds of teams."

Kelly: "Yes."

Again, Schroeder: "Do you feel like you guys haven't reached that kind of tier?"

Kelly: "Yes."

Lol.


[ Parent ]
I think I just... (4.00 / 2)
...threw up in my mouth a little bit.

What in the flying fuck is this thing?!


Wow it looks so 80s! (4.00 / 2)
It really reminds me of that era. Big hair and parachute pants manifested in a building of some sort.

[ Parent ]
Went to the county fair last night (4.00 / 2)
The 4H champion pig sold for $11.50 a pound. That's a lot of money for a little kid to earn.

Cooking Up a Story did an episode on the (4.00 / 2)
Molalla Country Farm Loop

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.

Jamie Oliver speech at One Young World conference (4.00 / 1)
Worth looking at. He's been quite successful through the TeeVee entertainment method. LA school district actually got rid of their chocolate milk and have a great new menu this year. This speech is about 45 minutes long and the point is mostly about globalization causing Western-style fast food to quickly creep into former third-world countries.



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