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Chicken Blogging: Is William Really Kate?

by: Jill Richardson

Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 15:50:44 PM PST


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After my last post, a friend emailed me a picture of her friend's Buff Orpington hen... and she (the hen) looked JUST LIKE my "William." Hmm. Could it be? Since William is perhaps my favorite, it would be great news if "he" was a girl. So I looked at some pictures of Buff Orp hens and roosters on MyPetChicken.com and sure enough... all the hens look just like "William." Or, I should say, just like Kate (as we now call her).


"William"/Kate

Jill Richardson :: Chicken Blogging: Is William Really Kate?
It appears that our chickens are not all the same age. I would guess that Kate's the oldest - perhaps she's even close to six months, the age at which Buff Orps begin laying eggs! Victoria and Elizabeth seem to be a little younger, and about the same age as one another. I still can't tell them apart. And Diana, who is totally MY baby (she was the one I took to the vet), seems to be the baby.


Victoria or Elizabeth on the left, Kate in the middle, and Diana on the right


I could tell who this was when I took the picture... but now I've got no idea. Probably Victoria or Elizabeth?


Again, no idea, but she kind of looks like Diana.

As you can see, Kate's comb and ears and the area around her eyes have turned red. The others are still pink, but Victoria and Elizabeth's combs are larger than Diana's and they are showing hints of red. And, of course, it's still possible that any of them are roosters - even Kate, if her comb keeps growing.

I've got a little more in the way of chicken news. On Christmas Eve, I ran out of organic chicken feed. Because I buy it at a local nursery that closes for the entire week between Christmas and New Year's, I was stuck with nothing for that entire week, unless I wanted to find another source of feed (probably not a bad idea in the long term but I didn't do it). So I went to the bulk bins at the local co-op and looked for "chickeny" sorts of food. I came up with a mix of rye and barley flakes and hulled sunflower seeds. I should have gone with rolled oats, as they would have been cheaper than the rye or the barley, but due to the way the co-op is set up and because we always buy steel cut oats, I didn't see them or think to look. Needless to say, my chickens have LOVED their food this past week.

I was hoping to start keeping the chickens in their coop all the time instead of letting them free range around the yard where they can eat my crops. I've got a few conflicting goals. On one hand, I want them to poop on their bedding in the coop so I can compost it, and I don't want them out and about eating my plants. I'm not so bothered about the cover crops they've eaten but they've absolutely chowed down on my baby pea vines this year and I'm worried I'll have to start over with new seeds in an area of the yard the chickens can't get to. On the other hand, I want my chickens to eat grass and bugs as a significant part of their diets, and that means letting them out.


Mmmm....Mama's plants!

Lately I'm wondering if I should start growing grass in small containers and, when it's large enough, putting it in the chicken coop. I usually give them plenty of worms from the compost bin as treats, but after we left the worms out in 6 days of rain with poor drainage, I was afraid we'd had a mass worm die-off in our bin. I looked in there today and the worms seem OK. I grabbed a few to give to the chickens and realized that a few of them that I was trying to grab were actually IN THE ACT of mating (just like we learned about it in 7th grade biology class!). It was pretty damn cool to actually see that, and I left those two to finish what they were doing instead of feeding them to my chickees.

My other bit of news is REALLY great: I asked one of our neighbors how he felt about the chickens, to see if there were any concerns he had or questions I could answer. He replied that he loves them and, in fact, now he wants to get some chickens too! AWESOME!!!!!!! Additionally, I met someone at the New Year's party I went to last night who (legally) keeps many chickens in a nearby city and she gave me the name of a good local chicken vet. She's got several breeds, including a Buff Orp, and she said that for the first few years her girls laid all through the winter, but now, at age 3 or so, they are not.

And, on a sadder note, I caught Kate picking on Diana a bit today and my roommate said he saw her do the same the other day. I truly hope that this is just a matter of establishing the pecking order and that it doesn't turn into a bloody conflict. It would be sad if I had to get rid of one of my two favorite chickens... and it would also be sad if one of my two favorites started acting in such a way that made her no longer likable!

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cabbage (4.00 / 4)
Did the flock figure out what to do with the cabbage?

nope (4.00 / 4)
they are really, really stupid. Just now they couldn't figure out what to do with the worms I brought them as a treat. So I put them on the ground in the coop, figuring that if nothing else, the worms could get to work composting the chicken poop.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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My chickens are sometimes slow... (4.00 / 4)
to figure out what do with with some of the "food" that I feed them. But they learn what to do with it in a day or two. I fed them some cabbage after reading your earlier post and they weren't sure that it was proper "chicken food;" but a day later they showed no hesitation.

Something Gene Logsdon suggested in a recent blog post is providing hay for your chickens. I bought a square bale and have been ripping off chunks to throw down on the litter. It's great for them to scratch around in and there are a lot of seeds for them to find and eat (unlike oat straw). Gives them something else to do when I close them up on really cold days.


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hey! I mean, HAY! (4.00 / 3)
That's a great idea. I gave them straw because I didn't want there to be seeds in it, once it becomes compost and then makes its way into my garden. I might just toss in a bunch of sunflower seeds and let them scratch around to find those.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Mine just dug through the compost (4.00 / 4)
They never really ate food scraps when I put it in their cage.

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Probably looking for worms and other goodies (4.00 / 3)
they could scratch up.

Mine come a runnin' any time they hear a piece of equipment fire up - tractor, rototiller, etc.. they know there will be loose soil and lots of easily obtainable food.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


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For greens for your hens if you keep them cooped up (4.00 / 3)
you can get whole wheat berries and sprout them. You can also grow some wheat grass for them. Any wheat berries should sprout. You can also spout buckwheat for the hens.

If you have problems with feather picking, there is an oil you can put on the affected bird to discourage the picking. You put it on the wound and when another bird picks they get an unpleasant taste. You'll find this at a feed store. You should have regular feed stores in your area, just look in your phone book or search online use the terms - feed store and the name of your town. The feed store is probably a better source for meds also than a nursery, as the feed store will be largely geared toward livestock and poultry.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


great (4.00 / 3)
I have found a feed store that's not too far away.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Your worms will soon learn... (4.00 / 3)
...the proper way to avoid becoming chicken feed.

Benefits for everybody!


I don't think the worms are gonna (4.00 / 3)
learn much. But if they are lucky, the chickens won't learn either.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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One thing about worms and chicken manure (4.00 / 2)
If you keep the hen house cleaned out often, so that there's not too much manure in the bedding or in the hen house when you introduce worms into it, the material won't be too hot for the worms. By hot, I mean chemically. I don't know if it's the nitrogen, or more likely the amonia, but too much of what ever is in fresh chicken manure is toxic to worms and will kill them. I'm thinking it's probably amonia. Kookoolan Farms did a study in which they tried to use worms to break down chicken manure, I think they were using material that was pretty heavy in manure. Their worms died.

If the material is very rich in chicken manure, if it's aged a bit, it cools down chemially and I think the worms would fare better.

On the hay issue, chickens love hay. I have to cover the hay I'm feeding to the livestock to keep the chicken manure off of it, or make it easier to remove any manure that gets on it (I shake loose hay over the top of the bales so that the manure can be lifted and tossed off before feeding the hay to the livestock, chicken manure can make livestock deathly ill). They love to scratch in it for seed, bed in it, lay eggs in it after making a nice nest, etc.. But hay will definately contaminate your compost with grass seed. The best hay has lots of seed heads in it. Straw will have mature seed heads in it too, but not anything like hay, and at least grain plants like oat, wheat and barley, are easier to pick out as weeds. Or you can let them grow and then harvest them for dried arrangements. You'll just get a clump or two here and there. They're also easier to find when you scater the straw around. I bought some barley straw a couple years ago, and collected a zipper top bag full. Still have that, I'll get around to threshing it and planting the seed one of these years....

One alternative, if you can find it, that's nice like hay but not as coarse as grain straw, is grass straw. Grass straw is a by product of the grass seed industry. After the grass seed crop is harvested, the seedheadless stalks are cut and baled just like grain straw is baled. You get the softness of the grass stalks, but none of the seed heads. Often blue grass straw is chopped, so the pieces of stalk are 4"-6" long and the stuff will bed and handle just as grain straw.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


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Thanks (4.00 / 3)
I just cleaned the coop a few days ago so it should be OK for the worms right now. Thanks for the heads up.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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My Chickens are just so funny... (4.00 / 4)
Looked out on the back porch a couple of minutes ago and saw 3 of them pecking at the suet feeder (put up for the woodpeckers and other wild birds). But the hens stretched their necks to reach up and peck at the suet.

Then they wandered around thru the thin, light layer of snow to the back door where they were picking up some spilled sunflower seeds. I couldn't help myself - I grabbed three Ritz crackers and threw them out there. Then I stood back and watched the girls go after them, pecking and breaking up the crackers into smaller bits and then stealing the smaller pieces from each other. They had never before seen the Ritz crackers, but they sure knew what to do with them.

I know, I know that I shouldn't have done it, I shouldn't encourage bad behavior by them--coming up on the porch and hanging around by the back door--but I just stood there laughing at them. And every time I walk outside they come rapidly waddling over to me or following after me, making my wife laugh out loud; I'm Mr. Mealtime to them. Who ever knew they could be so much fun.


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