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Chicken Blogging: After a Week

by: Jill Richardson

Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 23:04:37 PM PST


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We've now had our girls(?) for a full week. They are very happy, spoiled chickens, and I just love them. However, I've learned quite a bit about chicken-keeping in the past week that I figured I'd share. Although most of my experiences have just been confirmations of every single thing I've ever heard about chickens.
Jill Richardson :: Chicken Blogging: After a Week
1. Yes, they REALLY DO eat your crops. Dammit. I've been keeping them in their coop ever since I noticed they ate some of the sugarsnap pea plants. They can eat those vines eventually, JUST NOT NOW. At some point, we'll need to put chicken-proof fencing around our beds.

2. They poop everywhere. I got chickens so they would poop out fertilizer for my garden. But I didn't need any fertilizer for the brick path in the garden, and plenty of the poop has landed there.

3. It only took them a few days to "get it" that I'm the food lady. Even when they are out foraging in the yard, they approach me when I walk up. When I stick my hands in their coop, whether to adjust their water container, to feed them, or to pick them up, they try to see what edible thing must be in my hand for them to eat.

4. Our coop is NOT safe from predators. I did my homework ahead of time and found out that opossums don't really dig. Phew. What I didn't realize was that if a predator can't fit through the wire fencing we used on the coop, some predators would happily reach into the coop to kill the chicken and then pull the chicken out piece by piece to eat it. So far, so good, but we need a better coop.

Thus far, I've mostly had fun learning which foods the chickens like. Of course, they like most foods, but they like some better than others. They'll eat orange rinds and egg shells but they LOVE leftover oatmeal, bread, potato latkes, and bananas. I like watching them fight over things as I put them in the coop. Any time I take a bunch of kitchen scraps out to the coop, it's fun to watch and see which food is the most popular.

I bought the girls the same type of food and water containers I've seen in other backyard coops, but every single time I visit the coop, the water container is completely filled with bedding and chicken poop or dirt (I can't tell). I'm sure they kick that stuff in their while they search for bugs each day. Hopefully I clean it out enough times every day that the chickens get enough to drink... but I wish we didn't have this problem. To a lesser extent, it happens with the food container too.

The cats and, to a lesser extent, the dog have calmed down about the new additions to our family. The cats seem to have little interest in hunting for chicken, and only one of my three cats knows how to kill anything larger than a bug anyway (I've seen her get a baby snake). The dog doesn't want to eat the chickens, he just wants to sniff them. He does the same thing to my cats.

A friend who reads my Facebook page saw the picture of my pathetic homemade coop and offered to help me build a better one. She told me to get a plan online and then get the materials. She's got all of the tools and (I hope) knows how to use them. I've now got a plan, and my friend tells me that a store nearby will cut the wood to the plan's specifications if I buy it there. I am so inept with tools that I barely know the difference between a wrench and a screwdriver, so hopefully my friend knows what she's doing and a week from now my birds will be living in a nicer, safer coop.

The plan is likely going to cost more than I'd like to spend. In fact, if the materials really cost $300 (as the plan says they will... I didn't get to see that detail until AFTER I bought the plan), I think I could probably get a ready-made coop at the nearby organic nursery for about the same price. I'm still going to print out the plan and take it to the store, but once I get there, I'm going to see if I can communicate a much simpler idea to whoever is helping me, and then work from there. My chickens don't need to live in Cluckingham Palace, they just need to be safe and comfortable.

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No Chicktorian Mansion? (4.00 / 3)
Okay sorry, that was just horrible...

Richardsonian Romanesque?

Okay, even worse.  I'll stop now.


Barter for materials? (4.00 / 3)
Maybe you can trade some eggs for some of the materials you'll need?

If they were laying already... (4.00 / 3)
we've got a long wait, I think. At least until spring.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Hee hee... (4.00 / 3)
As I was lying here half awake I just realized that was a dumb question.  After nine or so, my brain don't work too good.

;)


[ Parent ]
LOL (4.00 / 3)
Welcome to my world! About 50% of the things I do out here are to protect the row crops from the hens, turkeys and to a lesser extent, the guinea fowl. What I've discovered with hens, and they rub my nose this on a daily basis, is that if they're not interested in eating it, they'll scratch or dig it up. That's why my ladies and gentlemen are being moved into a nice paddock with trees and no row crops in the spring. I'm going to have to rig a cover over it, either large mesh netting (expensive) or top wires and flash tape. My girls are used to flying and nothing short of a 12' fence will even slow them down if they think there's something interesting on the other side of the fence.

On the waterer and feeder issues,I have this problem in the brooding boxes and the baby shed. Try putting the waterer up on a block, 6" high should do it. Ideally this would be on a board or you can even use a feed bag folded in half if you're buying your feed in 50# bags. If you're buying in 25# bags you could use the bag unfolded. The chickens will pick at and crap all over the bag, but everytime you have a newly emptied bag, you swap out the old one for the new one and the old one goes on the compost pile. If the bag gets too grimy before you have a new one, you can flip it over when you get half way through the bag of feed you're currently working on. Don't use newspaper, it's not sturdy enough to withstand the hens' attention. You'd probably be replacing it twice/day.

You can do the same for the feeder, or you can get a rabbit feeder and hang it on the fencing of your new coop. The trick is to get the feeder and waterers off the ground. In my coop I have hanging feeders and those work great, but they're probably over kill for your outfit.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


chicken feeders and waterers (4.00 / 3)
the best way to deal with the water and feed issue is to suspend the containers from the ceiling with a length of wire to a height comfortable for the chickens to reach. This will keep them from scratching litter into the containers or pooping in them. It also prevents rodents (race, mice, etc. attracted by the feed) from eating all your chicken feed. Use a wire, not a rope so that they can't climb down on it.

Plastic mesh netting is some of the cheapest and easiest stuff out there to keep chickens out of crops. It can be stapled or tied to wooden stakes that can be easily moved around. I would rather use this than resort to wing feather  trimming.


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I agree with suspending the feeders and waterers (4.00 / 2)
but if you don't have a ceiling high enought to to this, or strong enough to hold the weight, then suspending them won't work.

I use orange construction netting, which is very easy to use, lasts a long time, and is pretty economical. I've used that fine black plastic netting on things like raised flower beds where I didn't want to be looking at masses of orange netting. The chickens always get into it, scratch around the stuff, twist the stuff out of shape, and then get in and dig all the plants up. Then the stuff gets all tangled up when the birds are trying to get out through it.

I'm going to have an acre+ in row crops this year, so netting the crops in my instance won't pencil out. Small gardens like Jill's it would though. For me the most cost effective solution is to place the birds in a large covered flight pen. It's got trees in one section, so they can still roost in those off the ground if they like, and it's going to be expensive to cover the rest of the pen, but it's a lot less expensive than covering the crops in netting.

I've tried wing trimming wild turkeys in the past, didn't work at all. They still were able to make it up to the top of of the flight pens I had other game birds in. Right now I've got one white leghorn hen who likes to climb vertical wire fences. She uses her wings to hold her body at the right angle and then climbs up the wire like you would a stair case. It's really the most incredible thing to watch. So far there's only one bird I've seen do this consistently, she got onto the back porch 3 different times that way yesterday. This is a new hen (one of this year's pullets who's just recently started laying and she's the only bird I've ever seen climb wire fence, although I've had lots who would climb up ladders, both the vertical ladder up into the hay loft and regular angled ladders. Too often I've seen my birds out here pick up tricks like that just by watching another bird do it a few times. It's probably just a matter of time before I have multiple fence climbers.

It'd be easiest to just not have chickens, but that's one of my farm's most popular items, so it's worth it to me to go to the trouble of placing them in a big paddock.

Plus, as frustrating as they can be, they do add a certain spice to the life style out here. Place just wouldn't be the same without them.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


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Got it (4.00 / 2)
I might just get a few cinderblocks to do the job.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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re: waterer (4.00 / 3)
i put my chicken waterer on a cement bock. no more problems.
$3 @ hardware store... or often free at construction sites.

come firefly-dreaming with me....

I've given up on the official chicken waterers (4.00 / 3)
They get full of debris and they're a pain to clean and empty and refill, even on blocks.

I have decided I like ceramic crocks. Easy to clean, easy to fill. I like to also have a little tiny rubber feed tub as backup water out in the run. Then they can dip their feet in warm weather.

As it was, he did a deal with a blancmange, and the blancmange ate his wife.


I hear ya on the waterers (4.00 / 2)
I use a tub for the older birds, but for the really young birds I still have to use the poultry waterers, otherwise the chicks, poults, etc. tend to drown themselves.

The nice thing about the tubs for the older birds is that I can put a warm mash in them during the real cold weather.

Normal people scare me.... But not as much as I scare them.


[ Parent ]
Building a coop.... (4.00 / 3)
Well- I know how to use the tools... but that doesn't mean we won't build something extremely strange looking...  

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