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Monsanto and Microsoft Get It On For Africa

by: Miep

Wed Feb 17, 2010 at 20:23:02 PM PST


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Pioneer, Gates to give African farmers biotech seed

Washington, D.C. - Pioneer Hi-Bred is joining with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to help scientists in Africa develop genetically engineered corn varieties that would allow poor farmers increase their yields with less fertilizer.

The aim of the project is to increase corn yields by 50 percent over the average now reached by African varieties, said Paul Schickler, president of Pioneer, a Johnston-based unit of DuPont.

The project represents the latest effort by U.S. seed giants to promote their products as being potentially beneficial to small-scale farmers in Africa, a continent with chronic food shortages but where countries have been reluctant to permit genetically modified crops.

Miep :: Monsanto and Microsoft Get It On For Africa
Corn is a staple food throughout eastern and southern Africa, but yields are typically only a fraction of what they are in the United States because of the poor soils, insufficient rainfall and farmers' lack of access to fertilizer, insecticides and high-quality seeds, experts say.

Um, well then maybe they should be doing something for food other than growing corn, which is a pretty heavy feeder? Especially hybrid GM stuff like Monsanto comes up with?

For some reason, the phrase "setting fires in order to have something to put out" comes to mind.

Well, Bill; much of teh Internet hates you for Microsoft; now they can hate you for Monsanto, too.

What do Microsoft and Monsanto have in common? Historical obsession about proprietary issues maybe?

Match made in hell.

In Africa, many poor farmers use little or no fertilizer already because of its cost.

And, as we all know, you can't just grow plants sustainably. Fertilizer only comes from God - er, Monsanto and Bill Gates.

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Mining, drilling, corning... (4.00 / 2)
Africa only exists for exploitation, no?

The project represents the latest effort by U.S. seed giants to promote their products as being potentially beneficial to small-scale farmers in Africa, a continent with chronic food shortages but where countries have been reluctant to permit genetically modified crops.

Ah yes, humanity only began there.  But those st00pid natives can't feed themselves without GM crops from their beneficent US corporate overlords, eh?

"If you look at the issues the world faces, we've got a tremendous need for increasing productivity," Schickler said in an interview. Experts say global food production needs to double by 2050 to meet the needs of growing populations in Africa, Asia and elsewhere.

You can increase "productivity" until the cows come home... but if nobody is willing to actually take the political steps to distribute what we already have and make sure that everybody has access to food (and no, this doesn't mean seeding the Niger Delta with Monsanto's seeds), it's all for naught.

Someone might wanna let the Gates folks know that people in Oregon aren't starving just because we can't grow oranges or pineapple here...

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


crosscommentpostnotification (4.00 / 2)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

Yeah. Thanks.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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Heading over... (4.00 / 2)
Oh god, all is lost once "Mem from Monsanto" gets involved though.  You're better off banging your head against a wall than discussing these issues with someone who makes her living off of selling software to these companies.  Which is what she does, in case you didn't know.

Of course, no one takes dKos seriously these days.  Mainly because of corporate shills like her.

Will be over soon, I think I wanna buy a 6-pack across the street first though...

:)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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I got the drift some time back (4.00 / 2)
that mem was financially involved with such businesses.

I still hang with DK, because of bloggers like FishOutOfWater, for example. But it's quite possible that a time will come when nobody there will ever get angry again.

I hope your sixpack was very good to you! I can't drink beer successfully anymore; I seem to have some kind of gluten thing going on.

thus I settle for chardonnay and at times tequila and juice. And tonight some very nicely made gluten-free pasta, with red bell peppers, onions, garlic, prawns, and parmesan.

Also my life is turning upside down and I'm trying/working to move to the PNW. Yay! pray for me, Jay.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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I certainly will... (4.00 / 2)
Where you gonna be moving to?  We should have a beer (me) and chardonnay (you) one of these years.

:)

My goal these days is trying not to be too much of an asshole anymore.  It's tough, though...

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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I don't know yet (4.00 / 2)
but the vector is in your general direction.

I have family in Washington State, and near San Francisco.

And I want out.

And I'd like it there.

I think of Portland as Mecca, too.

I think I would be willing to trade off all of this sun, for a sunlamp and friends.

I can do this.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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Well, good luck... (4.00 / 1)
...wherever you end up!

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!

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yikes! Jill, alert! (4.00 / 2)
I have this crossposted on DK, and Mem is saying stuff about ya.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

I'm trying to get your back, but you need to know about this.

Miep

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


Not really surprising... (4.00 / 2)
Mem is obsessed with Jill.

Fwiw, if you really want to piss her off?  Ask her about me.

Heh.  She just might spit fury into Ohio after that...

:)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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do you mean (4.00 / 2)
Mem would write/crosspost more stuff that didn't have any data in it?

Because, I'm sorry Jay; I love ya and all, but I just don't have time for that.

Big hugs to ya both, though.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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Lol... (4.00 / 2)
Nah, its' just that I just seem to have the "magic touch", when it comes to her.

I'm almost tempted to reply to one of her idiotic statements over there, but meh... I don't want to argue with Paul Wolfowitz for the next week.

do you mean mem would write/crosspost more stuff that didn't have any data in it?

Oh, she certainly would.  Believe me, the one comment I left over there already will probably have her going on about me for a week or so,

Fwiw, I think she has a crush on me...

;-P

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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Which is to say... (4.00 / 2)
I could claim "water is wet", and mem would spend the next week over at dKos trying to prove I'm wrong....

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!

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more yikes (4.00 / 2)
Now Mem is saying that there are no Monsanto Terminator seeds.

Mem also points out that there are food crops that have been chemically worked with prior to USDA organic standards, that are considered legitimate USDA organic crops (although he didn't say it that intelligently).

He's got a good point. I shall always grant people any good points.

But I want to get back to the Terminator seeds. Help?

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


Mem's a she (4.00 / 3)
there aren't terminator seeds. I think they might have invented them but didn't release them ever.

Also, Pioneer = DuPont.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman


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thanks (4.00 / 2)
That's helpful to get the clarification, as I'd read about it and wondered (teh Terminatory thing). Still, it's doable. I bet they could do it. And it would be wrong.

Pioneer = DuPont? Oh, well. That's interesting.

Thanks btw for the book you sent, about the fatness conspiracy. I still haven't read it but it's in the pile.  

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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crosspost (4.00 / 2)
http://www.dailykos.com/commen...

Hard to argue with What Is , when It stares you

right in the face. When a heifer decides a city person needs to leave her pasture , the several hundred pounds of fast moving enthusiastic bovine rearrange those misconceptions of placidity , stupidity , and a pre - patty patsy most urbanites have of "a cow". Just giving an example of What Is , Is - ain't what it ain't , even if money is spent to say what ain't Is.

by Abra Crabcakeya

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


Molecular breeding (4.00 / 2)
Pioneer's goal with the African project is to first develop the improved conventional African varieties through the molecular breeding techniques and then introduce the transgenic material toward the end of this decade, Schickler said. The first conventionally bred varieties could be available within four years, according to Pioneer.

The use of molecular markers allows scientist[s] to more precisely identify important genes within the plants.

I'm not sure what this means, exactly, but I think the Register's article is very carefully worded. This is exactly the same sort of vocabulary that was used in the roll-out of "waterproof" rice. The "term of art" in that case was "precision breeding," which will probably appear in future discussions about the Monsanto and Pioneer projects. Whatever the words used, the idea is that "precision breeding" or "molecular breeding" is not genetic modification or genetic engireering. Therefore, the new varieties do not require testing for regulatory approval, which speeds up certification, which explains why they might be available within 4 years instead of 10.

"Transgenic" clearly signifies introduction of one or more genes into one species from another species. I haven't nailed this all the way down, but I think "molecular breeding" uses exactly the same technology to transfer one of more genes from a variety of a species to another variety of the same species. A rice variety was known to exist which tolerated submersion (flooding) for up to two weeks, but it was low-yield and the variety was not commercially viable. Conventional breeding tried to produce commercially viable varieties with the flood-tolerant trait for 50 years without success. One gene which conferred the trait was discovered a few years ago, and suddenly it has been "precisely introduced" into six or seven commercial varieties.

That is not transgenic genetic modification. Is it conventional breeding? I doubt it. I think this was done in the lab, not the greenhouse.

Flood-tolerant rice varieties had successful field trials in India and Bangladesh a coulple of years ago, and might be certified for commercial distribution this year, if they haven't been certified already.

'Waterproof' Rice Varieties Pass Field Tests in Bangladesh and India

UC-Davis
November 20, 2008

The researchers anticipate that the flood-tolerant rice plants will be available to farmers within the next two years. Because the plants are the product of precision breeding, rather than genetic modification, they are not subject to the same regulatory testing that can delay release of genetically modified crops for several years.
...

Once Sub1A varieties are officially released within the next two years, the key will be dissemination to smallholder farmers in flood-prone areas. The International Rice Research Institute is leading this initiative through a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The research that led to the isolation of the Sub1A gene was funded by U.S. Department of Agriculture grants to Ronald, Mackill and Bailey-Serres. The breeding work was funded by the German Federal Ministry for Economic Cooperation and Development and the USDA.

I'm for the commercialization of flood-tolerant rice, pending further information. The international cooperation shown in the progress of this project is a good thing.


I think that molecular breeding is a high tech (4.00 / 2)
version of conventional breeding. As you say, transfering traits from one individual to another of the same species using gene splicing, thus more efficient. Can offspring produced in that way be pattented or even copyrighted? If so, then any cross breed within a species could be protected under intellectual property rights laws?


Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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proliferation (4.00 / 1)
I wonder how many "precision bred" varieties are in the marketplace that we don't know about, because somebody decided it isn't genetic engineering, which it obviously is.

Even if the breeds don't require the minimal government oversight required of recognized GMO varieties, there might be a government paperwork trail of some sort in some countries. In India, the government must certify rice varieties as OK to commercialize. Canada maintains a registry of OK wheat varieties. I don't know about the U.S., other countries, or other crops.


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I think much of this could be fixed (4.00 / 1)
if it was outlawed to patent genetic material.


"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

[ Parent ]
very good point (4.00 / 1)
about distinguishing different breeding efforts from each other. Gene-splicing is very new technology; very powerful, and thus dangerous. This not to say it can not be used beneficially. It is only to say that there is great potential for it to be used abusively and dangerously.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

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