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Another Concern Troll Worries About Locavores

by: chicago jack

Sat Feb 13, 2010 at 20:42:25 PM PST


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Another week and another writer is wringing his hands about the contradictions and impracticalities exhibited by locavores. Writing in Saturday's New York Times, Damon Darlin drags out the usual culprits who have instigated and promoted the preference for locally grown food: Michael Pollan, of course, but also Michelle Obama and her garden on the White House lawn. In his article titled "A Balance Between the Factory and the Local Farm" Darlin boils down the entire local food movement to this keen social observation:

'Diners now scan the menus at their local restaurants for provenances like "Cattail Creek Ranch lamb" or "Hudson Valley rabbit." And home cooks now await boxes of fresh produce delivered weekly from local growers.'

Well, you might ask, what could possibly be wrong with these things? Darlin helpfully points out something that perhaps locavores hadn't thought of:

"as much of the East Coast lies blanketed beneath a foot or more of snow, it's as good a time as any to raise a few questions about the trend's viability."

Doh! Weather! We completely forgot about weather!

But that's not the only flaw in preferring locally grown food. There are also "inconsistencies in locavore behavior." Darlin explains:  

chicago jack :: Another Concern Troll Worries About Locavores
"People who eagerly order microgreens - tenderly cut with scissors by a farmer that morning - would be scandalized if a Chilean grape was served next to them... But their wine and water? Those tend to be shipped in from far-flung places. Rarely, for example, do you hear a New York restaurant bragging of its Long Island wine. Even at Chez Panisse, the Berkeley, Calif., restaurant where Alice Waters got the whole local-ingredients trend started, two out of three wines on a recent evening - the wine list changes daily - did not come from the acclaimed wine regions that begin only 25 miles away."

"Scandalized" by a Chilean grape? Really? And actually, the one time I ate at Blue Hill, New York's most prominent promoter of local fare, they in fact were featuring wines from Long Island (among wines from many other places). And of course, what critic of locavorism can pass up an opportunity to tweak Alice Waters again? But Darlin is not finished pointing out "inconsistencies." Those who aspire to modify their eating habits in the hope of reducing environmental impact must also be taken down a notch:

"what started as an effort to source fresher ingredients from nearby family farms is now as much about reducing the carbon footprint and the "food miles" of food. Ordering water from the South Pacific island of Fiji or wine from New Zealand when the local stuff is quaffable seems to run counter to those ideals."

Ah yes, typical locavores, demanding local carrots, then ordering a nice plastic bottle of Fiji water. So, locavores are impractical and inconsistent. Is Darlin done with the biting critique? No, he also frets that this trend is economically infeasible. His evidence? The following:

"People who grow vegetables in empty lots and schoolyards have a nice, wholesome hobby - but one that can make little sense economically. A few years ago, William Alexander wrote a delightful book chronicling his gardening travails, "The $64 Tomato." He revealed a truth about do-it-yourself gardening: It is more efficient to buy a fresh tomato in the farmer's market for $1.50 a pound."

Maybe that guy was weeding his garden by leaning out the door of his Hummer as he drove up and down the rows. So, is that all that's wrong with preferring food from small, local farms? Unfortunately, no. And this time, we need to cue the scary music, like in those election year attack ads. Warns Darlin:

"As a sustainable trend, localism bears at least some resemblance to Mao Tse-tung's Great Leap Forward. In the late 1950s, Mao decreed that steel production be localized in backyard steel furnaces. Villagers began melting down pots and pans and creating their own steel, which amounted to low-quality and largely useless pig iron...It was a bad idea that dragged down the nation's productivity and played a role in widespread famine."

Next will come mandatory urban evacuation, followed by re-education camps. If you're not scared senseless by localism by now, perhaps you'll recall from above that the title of Darlin's article has the word "balance" in it. And just a couple sentences from the bottom, he finally gets around to the balance part:

"But on the other extreme are the mammoth food factories in the United States. Here, frequent E. coli and salmonella bacteria outbreaks are the food industry's version of Toyota's sudden-acceleration and braking problems. It may be a case of a manufacturing system that has grown too fast or too large to be managed well."

So after 18 paragraphs of concern trolling and fear mongering about the growing, but still quite small as a segment of the population, preference for fresh, locally grown food from small family farms, he gets around to mentioning things in our industrial food system that actually kill people.

I find it very interesting that articles and books criticizing the local food movement are popping up so frequently lately. Last year we had the book "Just Food" by James McWilliams, who trotted out the same strawmen that this article contains, and many more. I recently reviewed it in a previous post. He also penned an article in Forbes.com, titled "The Locavore Myth" last August that used strawmen very similar-sounding to Darlin's, particularly regarding the fictional obsession with "food miles". And Missouri Farm Bureau vice president Blake Hurst has written two attack pieces defending Big Agribusiness and industrial food, one titled "The Omnivore's Delusion" in The Journal of the American Enterprise Institute, and "Farmer Knows Best" in last week's "WeeklyStandard.com" (h/t Civil Eats).

It's possible that these pieces are not being coordinated, and just reflect natural push-back to all the pub that Michael Pollan and Food, Inc. have generated. It's also possible that Big Ag and Big Food are conducting a campaign to discredit all critics of industrial food. Making critics appear to be either out of touch elitists or clueless ex-hippies is stock-in-trade for corporate-driven campaigns, and sympathetic article placement has always been a key tool in the PR bag. I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more of this stuff.  

And now, you'll have to excuse me. I must go check on the two gasoline-powered generators I run 24/7 to power a bank of klieg heat lamps in my Chicago backyard. I need the heat to help my tropical cinnamon tree grow, so I can re-stock my spice rack.

Cross-posted at Great Lakes Real Food.

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Coordination... (4.00 / 3)
Actually, it does look like there's some kind of coordinated campaign out there meant to attack and discredit us, according to some things I've seen lately on an email list I subscribe to.

Diners now scan the menus at their local restaurants for provenances like "Cattail Creek Ranch lamb" or "Hudson Valley rabbit." And home cooks now await boxes of fresh produce delivered weekly from local growers.

Cattail Creek Lamb is from right here in Oregon's Willamette Valley.  How horrible that diners should know where their food comes from!  Heh...

Some of these so-called locavores

"so-called"?  Lol...

But their wine and water? Those tend to be shipped in from far-flung places.

Watch Damon Darlin build up a strawman and viciously beat it down!

My water comes from the tap, though.  My kitchen's not that
'far-flung' from the living room...

I stopped reading right there.  I admire you for being able to slog through the whole thing!

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


But if we're "so-called" locavores, (4.00 / 2)
and not actually locavores, wouldn't that make us better people in this guy's eyes?

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And I believe it actually started... (4.00 / 5)
I find it very interesting that articles and books criticizing the local food movement are popping up so frequently lately. Last year we had the book "Just Food" by James McWilliams, who trotted out the same strawmen that this article contains, and many more.

I believe it actually started with Paul Roberts' The End of Food from 2008, which seems to be the precursor to all of these 'balanced' "well, the industrial food system is trouble but organic and local will never feed the world!" books and articles.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


Jay, no comment on (4.00 / 4)
the push-back...but here's a push-forward from me:

Last Tuesday, another snowpocalypse looming, I went to the farmers' market in the middle of town.  God knows where the baby carrots came from (& I admit that buying them was a bow to convenience over localism) but I found some turnips that were locally grown, and some grass-fed beef that is either local or from a nearby county, forget which.  With some Yuengling lager (local) and some onions (NYS) it turned into a fine stew/pot roast to take to work all weekend.

In fact, the carrots are probably what traveled the farthest to get to me.  And the turnips are just wonderful: sweet and sort of peppery-tasting.

The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been found. -- Calvin Trillin


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Hmm (4.00 / 5)
I see this as a success story. The locavores are becoming a big enough threat to the powers that be they they are now attacking.

I remember when the anti organic crowd got Dennis and Alex Avery of the Hudson Institute to write regular attacks on organic food and farming about 10 years ago. All that did was energize the organic farming/eating base and now we have a national standard and it is the fastest growing sector in agriculture (yes, organic is out pacing GMO's by a wide margin)

And now they are attacking local foods. Why? because the factory farm people do not like this pastured meat craze that is sweeping the nation (okay maybe not sweeping the nation...) and the grocers hate the farmers markets and CSA's because they take away up to 4% of their market share. Fortunately the locavore pioneers are for the most part well educated and able to rebut poor arguments put forth and we know how to do it publicly (i.e a lot of activists in this crowd). So like the attacks on organics, (which still happen but they have lost the venom they once had, mainly because that venom was all lies which have been soundly debunked) I see the attacks on locavorism will in the long run only be good for the movement.

I would love to have a case of Yeungling's in my fridge right now in the big bottles (which my husband saves and reuses to bottle his home brew beer in.) But they rarely ship to western Ohio so I have to depend on a friend who makes trips from DC to here to pick up a case of two every 4 to 6 months.


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I agree--when Big Food attacks, it must mean good things are happening. (4.00 / 4)
With Pollan getting the most attention ever, and Food, Inc. getting nominated, that's some serious break-through to a more mainstream audience. The attacks will get worse, but they must be called out for the shams that they are every time.  

[ Parent ]
I agree with you on the motives for the attacks (4.00 / 4)
but it's not the so called factory farmers who are attacking. I haven't seen any attack pieces written by actual farmers. At least none that have made it into any media stream other than MeatingPlace, which few outside of the local foodie movement and the commercial protein industries even know about.

These pieces are being written by people who don't appear to know much if anything about farming.

But really, there is a point that I see everyone consistently missing, that is, people miss this point on both the locavore side and the commodity ag side. That point is that in general, the two farming systems serve two very, very, different markets.

On the one hand, you have the local farms growing and selling food meant for direct human consumption and they're selling direct to the consumer. What we sell needs minimal processing to be eaten and enjoyed. Quite often all one need do is clean and cook or dress to eat. Even the meats come ready to use, dressed poultry, already cut up meats, etc.

Then you have the large scale commodity farms, feed lots and processors. The products they produce and grow are meant to serve markets that are dependant on large distribution systems. The markets are huge, and require vast quantities of raw materials, be they basil for pesto, beef for a sit down restaurant, or cured meats for your favorite sandwich shop.

Even restaurants that prepare their own meats, like one in NY that prepares their own beef bellies for corned beef or pastrami, is dependant on the commodity beef market. I saw a program on them, and I forget how many beef bellies they go through a week. No small farm/ranch could supply them, nor do they have any business trying.

So I really don't see much in the way of competition between the two. The large farms, feedlots and processors don't sell into our market (the direct sales market) and never will, they have neither the ability, nor the intent. Conversely, the small farms, like my CSA, don't serve their markets, or at least not many small farms do.

Joel Salatin has established a relationship with Chili's, but that's an herculean effort and Polyface Farms is now a fairly large outfit. I wouldn't call a farm of over 1,000 acres a 'small' farm, although if compared to some of the commodity farms it would be small. And the production on that farm is phenominal, which is what they need to serve just that one small, small, segment of the commercial food system.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


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You're right on the two different systems, but... (4.00 / 3)
If enough people opt out of the big system, even if it's just for a small percentage of their food purchases, on a consistent enough basis, then eventually that will be reflected in sales numbers of some processed food products. Perhaps that is already happening in some categories. Or if not a noticeable sales impact yet, then maybe consumer research, focus groups, etc. is starting to show attitude changes that the big food industry sees as a future threat. So, even though you don't compete directly with the big commodity producers, if enough people buy direct from farmers like you it will be felt somewhere in the big system. I must admit I don't know enough about the food system to know which parts of it would be impacted first, or most.  

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Even so. (4.00 / 2)
I think it isn't about competition or non-competing markets. What you say about that is correct. Neverthless, advocates of better food generate a lot of discussion, not only about problems in the commercial food system, but about whether the commercial food system needs to be as bad as it is. Apparently the factory food system is feeling real pressure to mend its ways, even as we all know it will continue to dominate.

Most of us know only a few names who advocate for better food or better ways of doing business. Think, though: the Deconstructing Dinner radio program airs only on about 39 small radio stations, last I looked, and the large majority of those are in Canada, not the U.S., BUT - every week of the year, that progam produces 60 minutes of solid reporting, non of this 42-minute hour stuff. A small fraction of the programs attack Syngenta, "Norway, B.C.", Unilever, etc. A smaller fraction highlight Canadian federal and provincial governmental idiocies. Most of the programs spotlight wonderful, effective, productive alternatives to the dominant North American model. The number of people listening to the podcasts probably is a lot more than the radio audience, and he has listeners all over the world. The host mostly interviews ordinary people that nobody has ever heard of, but that is powerful stuff, and it's only one example.


[ Parent ]
What did Ghandi say? (4.00 / 2)
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

And actually I found this version of it on my search through Wikiquotes:
Describing the stages of a winning strategy of nonviolent activism. A close variant of the quotation first appears in a 1914 US trade union address by Nicholas Klein:

       

And, my friends, in this story you have a history of this entire movement. First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. And that, is what is going to happen to the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America.


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Grassfed meat readily available at indoor farmers' markets in Chicago (4.00 / 4)
I'll be leaving shortly for the Logan Square Indoor Farmers' market, where there are always several sources of pastured meat. Vegs at that market are limited right now to microgreens, but other markets on Saturdays, which I can't get to, have some hoop house stuff.  

[ Parent ]
Well, Paul Roberts is a peak oil doomer (4.00 / 3)
I'm one too and I believe that there will be a human die-off when oil production falls so much that it is too expensive to grow and ship food with our current methods (10 calories of fossil fuels for each food calorie consumed).

Local and organic will be the default IMO, but these consume much less fossil fuels.

One thing the anti-locavores fail to consider is that much local food products are canned or dried -- it isn't all fresh veggies on the restaurant menu. We've got a local who does pickles (and Kim Chee), there's a goat cheese maker who has aged cheese all year round.  


[ Parent ]
Same here... (4.00 / 2)
Although I object to the "doomer" label they give us.  I like to think of us more as pointing out a quite real possibility that others may not want to think of.  "What if?"  

If we're wrong, then we're wrong.  A pleasant surprise.  But it would be nice to be prepared for all possibilities, and wishful thinking amongst those on the far other side (Smilers?  I don't even know if they have a name yet, lol...) isn't going to do much if even some bad things do eventually come to pass sooner or later.

I think the world's going to get much smaller and more local soon myself, but that certainly doesn't have to be a bad thing.  Matter of fact, it can make for an even better world when our wealth stays close to home to improve all of our lives, rather than funding overseas military expeditions and propping up degenerate gamblers like Goldman Sachs and them.  But one of the prerequisites in moving towards that world is dropping some current ideas about what's "normal" and "necessary" to everyday life, and reevaluating where we stand in regard to natural resources and the real basic necessities of life.

Local and organic will be the default IMO, but these consume much less fossil fuels.

Exactly, just like it always has been throughout history, except for these freakish past few decades.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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Interesting observation (4.00 / 3)
Exactly, just like it always has been throughout history, except for these freakish past few decades

Are you willing to depopulate your beloved city to go back to growing the old ways without the fossil fuels? More hand labor and more draft animals as opposed to tractors?

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
Cities aren't the problem... (4.00 / 1)
Cities have always existed throughout history, as have small towns surrounded by rural hamlets and farmland.

Those are the traditional human living patterns.

I will grant that some of our megacities won't be too well off in the future, I believe, especially those who've allowed sprawl to extend 60 or 70 miles from their centers and gobble up all the farmland along the way.  But Portland isn't a terribly highly populated city by any means, and Oregon has done a fantastic job preserving large amounts of working farmland within just miles from the city center itself.  Portland isn't a problem, and doesn't need to "depopulate".  At least, not yet.

What is the problem, are the outer suburbs and exurbs.  Those are the historical anomalies, which took away much of our working farmland because people had easy access to cars and didn't want to live a truly rural life, or didn't want to live next to "those people" in the cities.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


[ Parent ]
I agree with you that cities have always been around (4.00 / 2)
but never in the history of human civilization, has such a high percentage of any given civilization's population not been rural and self sufficient.

What percentage of the USA's population was rural and making a living off the land 100 years ago? 70 years ago? 60 years ago? How many now?

You're right, cities aren't the problem per se. It's the size of the cities, and their suburbs and especially the percentage of the USA population that's in a city or suburb, and therefore not very self sufficient, that is the problem.

You take 95%+ of the population in a country and stick them in cities, suburbs, etc., and you create an environment that supports industrial ag and the food manufacturing industries that need that type of large scale agricultural production to support it.

The developments in large scale production agriculture have both been supported by, and made necessary by, the move into the cities (the manufacturiring centers, or at least they used to be) by a large percentage of the population that used to be largely self sufficient in food production.

If you doubt my annalysis, look at what's happening in the BRIC countries as they develop and industrialize. China's an especially good example of what I'm talking about. They're going right down the same road we went down 60+ years ago.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
And we agree again! (4.00 / 1)
On this point, I'm really not sure what we're arguing about, Joanne?

I think we're yelling past each other again...

;-P

I'm not now, and I never have, defended the suburbanization of America.  If nothing else, you've gotta at least know that about me...

Portland isn't perfect, but like I said above we're the least of the problems America will soon have to worry about.  For that matter, like I said above, I'd also argue we're not even a 'problem' at all.  Some of the suburbs around here very well may be, but I don't live in them and I won't and don't defend them.  

You know where I live, and it's probably just as sustainable, if not more so, around here than any other large American urban neighborhood could be, or probably ever historically has been.

The developments in large scale production agriculture have both been supported by, and made necessary by, the move into the cities (the manufacturiring centers, or at least they used to be) by a large percentage of the population that used to be largely self sufficient in food production.

I don't dispute or doubt what you say, rather I make the same argument.

But there's degrees to consider.  Portland isn't Beaverton, and Beaverton isn't Atlanta, and Atlanta isn't Alpharetta.  Etc, etc...

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


[ Parent ]
Telescopes (4.00 / 1)
Our views on this might depend on which end of the telescope we're looking into.

The developments in large scale production agriculture have both been supported by, and made necessary by, the move into the cities

The other view is, movement into cities was supported by, and made necessary by, government decisions to kill off traditional agriculture.


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A clarification is necessary here... (4.00 / 1)
I left something out...

What is the problem, are the outer suburbs and exurbs.  Those are the historical anomalies, which took away much of our working farmland because people had easy access to cars and didn't want to live a truly rural life, or didn't want to live next to "those people" in the cities.

In that paragraph, I also left out the fact that compact, small towns surrounded by working farmland are actually the ideal human settlement, imo.  So that's the median between city and rural, obviously.

But...

The fact is that suburbanization largely eliminated those towns as viable places to live in its creeping urban sprawl from city centers.  There are many suburbs in the US today which have a long history, and started out as compact small towns surrounded by working farmland... but today, sadly, virtually all of those places have had their Main Streets killed by national chain-anchored shopping malls along the highways on the outskirts of town, after which the towns themselves had their economic vitality sapped and became nothing more than collections of sprawling subdivisions, gas stations, fast "food" restaurants, and check cashing places, with a few historic houses and maybe a bed & breakfast here and there.

The old farmers outside of town sold out to K. Hovnanian, Toll Brothers and the rest of their ilk.  

That's one reason why I like new urbanist TOD's like Orenco Station in Hillsboro.  I'd never live in those places myself, and they're certainly not Portland... but they're much better than plowing farmland and plopping down McMansions in Helvetia.  That's the third way, and we can work with that.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


[ Parent ]
Would hovels in Helvetia be better than McMansions? (0.00 / 0)
How about tents? I like tents, they fit in better with the whole rustic feel of the place. Maybe they could use Camo Tents, then the tents wouldn't be easy to see from the road as the people from the urban areas take their nice sunday drive in the country.

Personally, if someone wants to buy land and build a house on it so they can live on it I don't have a problem with that. The way landuse laws are in Oregon (and have been for quite a while now), you're not going to build a McMansion on a piece of property unless there was already a house on it to begin with. If it's high value farm land you'll have to show a miminum of $80,000 in farm income from that property before the county will even let you do a perk test.

There are developments that go in, but those are within the jurisdictional boundaries of cities. There aren't any that I know of that have gone in outside of cities' jurisdictions.

I've been working construction in this area since 1985, both residential and commercial, new and remodel, and I haven't seen much of anything being built on farmland that wasn't controled by a city. The only one that comes to mind is a development between the Carver cutoff (212/224) and Damascus on 224. That was built over 20 years ago.

I'm pretty sure that if you want to build a McMansion in Helvetia, you're going to be building it in place of an existing residential building, and you'll probably have to follow the one wall rule. When remodeling, sometimes you have to leave one wall  of the existing structure standing. If you come in and just knock down the existing structure, you're done. You may not be allowed to rebuild.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
I'm not willing to do that (4.00 / 2)
(not speaking for JayinPortland) But I don't think there's much of a way to bargain with mother nature if the supply of energy falls while the population continues to grow.

The peak oil theory states that when supplies of fossil fuels decline, then the price will rise so high that our current industrial modus operandi of fossil fueled transportation, heating, industrial, agricultural and electricity production will collapse. Some think we've already recently passed peak production.

Without the trappings of the industrial age, the earth's population faces massive famine.

It's a very dark scenario, for sure. But we've only been doing this modern industrial age for 100 years or so.  


[ Parent ]
Also, let's not forget... (4.00 / 1)
Let's not forget that if you lived in maybe 47 or 48 other states, your current property would have long ago been turned into a subdivision or a strip mall.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!

[ Parent ]
Addendum... (4.00 / 1)
Let's not forget that if you lived in maybe 47 or 48 other states, your current property would have long ago been turned into a subdivision or a strip mall.

At the end, I meant to add "living as close as you do to one of America's 30 most populous cities."  There are no rural 'hamlets' left within a few miles of Atlanta or Houston or Los Angeles or even New York City or San Francisco.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


[ Parent ]
Well, I don't know about that. (4.00 / 2)
It depends on when you bought land. If you bought land 20 years ago here, to use our place as an example, you'd still be several miles out from a relatively large city. If you'd bought land where my dad's house was in the 19teens, you'd have been swallowed up long ago by Portland. When my dad was born, Sellwood was a village near to Portland.

Makes me wonder what Portland, Oregon City, Canby, and Molalla will look like 100 years from now. I would not be surprised if Mulino will have wound up going the same way as Sellwood.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
Well, sure... (4.00 / 1)
But we're talking about right now, not the 1920's...

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!

[ Parent ]
And I'm talking about the continual growth of the cities (0.00 / 0)
That's what the urban and rural reserves process is all about in the tricounty area. Determining where the cities will grow.

Eventually all of the little suburbs will be swallowed up by the cities. And I still think that Sellwood is a good example. Sellwood was a village, what we would call a suburb or perhaps exurb today. Same with Ladds Edition. Over the past 150 years or so, Portland has grown, and grown, and grown, and it'll continue to grow, and grow and grow. Even if population in the area doesn't increase like the projections for the reserves process predict, unless the same ammount or more people leave the area than come in, Portland and the surrounding urban areas will continue to increase in population, which means that their footprints will continue to grow. So what's happened over the past 100 years is very relevent to what's going on now and will happen in the future.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
Consider the source of the story (4.00 / 4)
"Damon Darlin is the technology editor of the New York Times and is based in San Francisco.

He joined the Times in 2005, writing the Saturday Your Money column and also covering PCs and other personal electronic devices. He is most interested in the consumer side of technology, particularly in supply, demand and pricing."

Tech guys live off of Red Bull and Twinkies, so this story was a planted by corporate Ag.


Red Bull and Twinkies. (4.00 / 2)
I might have seen Darlin at a Manhattan steak house,, knocking on the door of the 48oz. Club.

He didn't get in, though.


[ Parent ]
NYT Tech editor worries about locavores while Google Buzz blows up? (4.00 / 3)
A curious topic for a tech editor to focus on while something HUGE is going on in his home beat. But then, who goes to the NYT to keep up with tech?

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