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The Chicken Project - I'm the Subject of a Newspaper Editorial

by: Jill Richardson

Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 00:35:27 AM PST


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The San Diego Union-Tribune used up some of their precious editorial space to pick on my plan to legalize chickens.

No, there are reasons chickens have persona non grata status inside most city limits. One has to do with sanitation and public health. Another with keeping peace between neighbors - that plump hen just beyond the fence is pretty inviting to a bored feline or canine. And third is the noise. Romantics aside, roosters don't just crow at the crack of dawn.

Richardson made a strategic mistake, and we don't mean asking for permission. If anything, she forgot the prime tenet of real estate - location.

Can I just say - what the hell?  

Jill Richardson :: The Chicken Project - I'm the Subject of a Newspaper Editorial
First off, my request to the city explicitly excluded roosters. Second of all, compare chickens to a number of other pets. They require very little space, don't poop all that much, and they are relatively quiet. And all pets come with some downsides, but we allow them. Dogs bark and some dogs bite. They poop a lot. They can get rabies. A resident might not clean up after his or her dog or respect leash laws. A dog might harbor fleas or other pests. Yet dogs are legal and no one would ever think of making them illegal because dog owners love their dogs.

Compared to a dog, chickens are nothing! As for the paper's concerns about a neighboring dog eating a chicken (a cat won't eat a full-grown chicken), it's the responsibility of the chicken owner to see to it that their chickens are protected from predators. As for fights between neighbors - those can happen now, without chickens. In addition to battles over where property lines are drawn or tree branches that hang over a neighbor's hard, neighbors may already bicker over loud dog barking. My next door neighbor here has a dog that is quite loud and I know my choices are to put up with it or approach the neighbor about it. I just deal with it. How would anything change if we had chickens here?

How about the idea that this is the city, not the country, so we need to keep country things out. Well, it's also the city, not the tropics or the rainforest, so should we ban parrots and iguanas, too? On a more serious note, this is an idea that truly needs to go away. As the talks in Copenhagen wrap up, I think we are all aware now more than ever that oil is in short supply and greenhouse gas emissions (many of which come from agriculture) are endangering our very existence on this planet. If we are going to survive - and I mean that literally - some of our ideas about cities and suburbs such as green lawns and chickens are going to have to change. (Plus, of course, New York City allows chickens, and no one can argue that New York is in the country.)

The La Mesa city government was actually quite receptive to the chicken idea, they just wanted to wait until a more appropriate time to discuss it. In 2010, they will begin working on a revision to the city's general plan and they hope to review sustainability and food production (including chickens) more broadly. Following that, then they plan to look into the zoning ordinance to allow chickens that I requested. I'm glad La Mesa's city government is more forward thinking than the Union Tribune's editorial board, since the Union Tribune won't ultimately get to make the decision.

Previous installments of The Chicken Project:
Part 1: Initial Planning for Chickens
Part 2: Oops, it's not legal
Part 3: My public comment at City Council
Part 4: My letter to the city
Part 5: Bad News
Part 6: City Council Tables the Issue
Part 7: We Made the Local Paper!

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point-missing (4.00 / 4)
Someone worked pretty diligently to produce so obtuse an editorial. I'm glad it appeared now istead of two weeks from now - it has a good chance to take at least second place in the 2009 point-missing competition.

Did that leading light bother to discuss this with you?


My LTE (4.00 / 5)
I find your editorial Home, Home on the Ranch to be quite off-base. Small flocks of backyard chickens are permitted in New York City. Other cities across the U.S. (like Madison, WI and Portland, OR) permit chickens, and more are changing their laws to allow them each year. Typically roosters are not allowed due to the noise, and I explicitly requested hens only to be permitted in La Mesa. Chickens are a natural complement to any garden as they provide valuable fertilizer and pest control and they convert waste products like weeds, bugs, and kitchen scraps into eggs that are more nutritious than the store-bought kind.


"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

"It's about the people who keep them, you know - (4.00 / 5)
poor people, brown people. We can't say exactly who we're talking about now that those lefty-liberals, hippies and their sympathizers have made the language all PC and stuff, but you all know who we are talking about. If we let them have chickens then the next thing that you know they will have mini farms in their neighborhoods. It will look just like where they came from with corrugated tin roofed, unpainted shacks and dusty yards filled with chickens scratching everywhere, goats roaming around and barefoot little kids. You know, I have one who keeps my lawn looking perfectly nice. Why can't they all just paint their houses a nice shade of beige have a decent looking lawn like everyone else?"

It's racism pure and simple.


I think that you're right in that this is no doubt a part of what motivates (4.00 / 6)
some people to not want livestock and poultry in the city. I have actually read articles from California newspapers about hispanics, especially recent immegrants to the USA, keeping livestock and poultry (including roosters) in some cities, even butchering in their back yards. The philosophy that one person interviewed for an article I read a couple months ago, said they should be able to keep roosters (how are you going to get your replacement hens and other birds to eat), etc. and that this was how they lived in the old country and it worked just fine there so why shouldn't it work just fine in the USA?

But it's also about misperception about animals like chickens. It's not understanding about anything related to agriculture. It's about erroneous perceptions about what farming's all about, and it's also about people living in cities because they don't what to have anything to do with the country and farming more than going to the store and buying something to eat or picking up some nice bedding plants at the garden center.

Just as there are lots of people who live in the country because they don't like the city (even if they have absolutely no intention what so ever of ever farming), there are people who live in the cities because they like city life. Their POV is "If I had wanted to live in the country around farm animals I would have moved to the country". It's the oposite complement to the POV that says "If you wanted to build a development, you should do so in an urban area and not come out here to the country and pave over farmland".

Jill's job now, as I see it, is to counter these arguments with logic and accurate information. The editor completely misstated her position and request to the city council. Exposing this to the public along with logical arguments, and accurate information to counter pieces like this editorial, will go a long way towards garnering public support for her cause all the while, exposing people like this editor as being uninformed and spreading misinformation, therefore, hopefully, compromising his/her credibility and perhaps even the credibility of the newspaper.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


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Stupid is as Stupid Does (4.00 / 5)
Here is a list of cites with chicken laws.

http://home.centurytel.net/the...

You should contact Martha Stewart, she started the backyard chicken coop movement in the 90's, her words would have an effect on the political socialites in San Diego government.



They owe you equal space (4.00 / 5)
To respond, and your post has all the elements you need for a world-class rebuttal.  I'd suggest putting it all together in a little different package and politely requesting a chance to respond.

One suggestion, possibly motivated by personal bias.  I'd not put in the comparisons to dogs, or at least consider not painting dogs in an unfavorable light.  Dog people, present company included, are pretty hyperbolic about our pets, and you might recruit a few new believers from the ranks.


"Get off our lawn!" (4.00 / 4)
That's what I heard over and over in my head the whole time I read that piece...

One has to do with sanitation and public health.

Yeah, I'll try to remember that next time I see a giant pile of dog shit in the park or on a sidewalk, and then be thankful for...

Oh, wait a minute...

Heh.

But she needs to do what many of us old-timers should be doing more of, taking a day trip to explore and get away from it all while hardly leaving our back yard.

And what the hell does going out and taking a day trip have to do with anything?  What an odd non sequitur...

I'd say a large part of what it is, especially with those "old timers" (they said it!), is they see 'the world they know' changing rapidly, and if they stand outside and scream at the sky, waving their fists for emphasis, maybe they can stop that dreaded 'change'.  Their Ward Cleaver World is white picket fences, (toxic) green lawns, big cars, cheap never-ending oil, and nothing but Good News About America on the teevee.

Their world also never existed, and it sure won't in the future, but that won't stop them from raging and railing against anything and everything that doesn't fit into their worldview.  Their influence and their power is slipping, and the world will eventually leave these types behind, but they ain't gonna go quietly...

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


WOW (4.00 / 4)
I've never seen anything like that in a newspaper.  First of all, they're just straight disrespectful to you.  Second, I don't know what town they live in, but they don't live in reality.  Chickens do not equal roosters, roosters are not required to have chickens or eggs, and they never really give a reason for not having chickens.  Here is their apparent reasoning:

1.  Sanitation - OK, so they don't provide any evidence, other than personal prejudice, that chickens are any dirtier than dogs or cats or other pets.

2.  Peace between neighbors - isn't that an issue between neighbors, and not the city council?  And isn't it the responsibility of chicken owners to protect their own chickens?  There's no reason for any city council to step in on things like this.

3.  This town is near another town that's kind of like a rural place - Another assessment that sounds like it's based on vague feelings rather than reality.

Vote for yourself at www.ni4d.us!


Oh, and I forgot - (4.00 / 4)
If you're not planning to already, WRITE A LETTER IN RESPONSE!  And make it a lot more intelligent (as anything you write is sure to be) than this screed against chickens and you.

Vote for yourself at www.ni4d.us!

[ Parent ]
This is as insane as asking those chicken to come forward and show their passports! (4.00 / 5)
...Or as OG explains: this is as stupid as stupid does!

Sic Transit Gloria Locavore!



Al Qaeda chickens... (4.00 / 5)
Actually, you bring up a good point.  In our rush to legalize hens in cities, we must also make sure that we do not allow members of Al Qaeda to roam freely in the yards of our cities; pecking our bugs, scratching our grubs and getting stronger.

That could do immeasurable damage to our cause...

As long as the chickens submit to FBI background checks and pledge Loyalty Oaths, I don't see a problem, though.

Consider me a National Security Chicken Supporter.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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Imagine chickens hiding bomb vests under their plumage! (4.00 / 3)
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chickens are okay in my book (4.00 / 5)
You have made a very good argument for legalizing chickens in the city limits. "legalizing chickens" sounds kind of humurous but it is a beneficial endeavor. Properly cared for chickens can be a positive for the environment and the family unit.

I wish you success in getting your chickens legalized.


editorials (4.00 / 4)
aren't signed in your paper?
in my local paper they are. we know who to hold responsible when un-researched editorials appear....

come firefly-dreaming with me....

guess not nt (4.00 / 3)


"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Sanitation? (4.00 / 4)
Do y'all not have birds there?

Maybe not... (4.00 / 3)
They do seem to love them some lawn chemicals 'round that way...

Heh.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


[ Parent ]
Check out what we have going on in Denver (4.00 / 4)
That editorial was ridiculous, and completely misinformed. In other words, a typical response from someone not at all familiar with the realities of a small backyard flock in a city.

In Denver we are allowed chickens (and dwarf goats), but there is an expensive, time-consuming permitting process. Oh, and just one neighbor is allowed to highjack things and prevent you from getting a permit.

I'm working with City Council to get a certain number of hen chickens and dwarf goats allowed as a "use by right," meaning they can be owned without a permit.

To support this effort, I've created a group called Sustainable Food Denver (http://www.sustainablefooddenver.org). You did a great job outlining the problems with the editorial's reasoning, but you should check out the "Myths vs. Facts" and "Other FAQs" section of the website. We've had lots of experience handling ridiculously misinformed people, so we've come up with some good answers.


oh fantastic! (4.00 / 3)
thanks so much! Just so people can have a clickable link to your site, here: http://www.sustainablefooddenv...

Our groups in San Diego are:

SD Food Not Lawns: http://www.sdfoodnotlawns.com/
San Diego Roots: http://www.sandiegoroots.org/
Victory Gardens San Diego: http://www.victorygardenssandi...

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman


[ Parent ]
Are they not aware (4.00 / 4)
that just up the coast cities like Huntington Beach allow back yard chickens?  It shows total ignorance as if they didn't even bother to do any research.  I'm so sorry, they made the OC Register look informed.

Here is what Seattle does (4.00 / 3)
Seattle Municipal Code

Title 23 - LAND USE CODE
Subtitle III Land Use Regulations
Division 2 Authorized Uses and Development Standards
Chapter 23.42 - General Use Provisions

SMC 23.42.052 Keeping of Animals.

The keeping of small animals, farm animals, domestic fowl and bees is permitted outright in all zones as an accessory use to any principal use permitted outright or to a permitted conditional use, in each case subject to the standards of this Section.

A. Small Animals. Up to three (3) small animals may be kept accessory to each business establishment or dwelling unit on a lot, except as follows:

1. In no case is more than one (1) miniature potbelly pig allowed per business establishment or dwelling unit (see subsection B of this section).

2. In single-family zones,

a. accessory dwelling units shall not be considered separate dwelling units for the purpose of this section;

b. up to four (4) small animals are permitted on lots of at least twenty thousand (20,000) square feet; and

c. one (1) additional small animal is permitted for each five thousand (5,000) square feet of lot area in excess of twenty thousand (20,000) square feet. Accessory structures, including kennels, for four (4) or more animals must be at least ten (10) feet from any other lot in a residential zone.

B. Miniature Potbelly Pigs. That type of swine commonly known as the Vietnamese, Chinese, or Asian Potbelly Pig (Sus scrofa bittatus) may be kept as a small animal, provided that no swine that is greater than twenty-two (22) inches in height at the shoulder or more than one hundred fifty (150) pounds in weight may be kept in the City.

C. Domestic Fowl. Up to three (3) domestic fowl may be kept on any lot in addition to the small animals permitted in subsection A. For each one thousand (1,000) square feet of lot area in excess of the minimum lot area required for the zone or, if there is no minimum lot area, for each one thousand (1,000) square feet of lot area in excess of five thousand (5,000) square feet, one (1) additional domestic fowl may be kept.

D. Farm Animals. Cows, horses, sheep and other similar farm animals are permitted only on lots of at least twenty thousand (20,000) square feet. The keeping of swine is prohibited, except for miniature potbelly pigs allowed under subsection B of this section.

1. One (1) farm animal for every ten thousand (10,000) square feet of lot area is permitted.

2. Farm animals and structures housing them must be kept at least fifty (50) feet from any lot in a residential zone.

E. Beekeeping. Beekeeping is permitted outright as an accessory use, when registered with the State Department of Agriculture, provided that:

1. No more than four (4) hives, each with only one (1) swarm, shall be kept on lots of less than ten thousand (10,000) square feet.

2. Hives shall not be located within twenty-five (25) feet of any lot line except when situated eight (8) feet or more above the grade immediately adjacent to the grade of the lot on which the hives are located or when situated less than eight (8) feet above the adjacent existing lot grade and behind a solid fence or hedge six (6) feet high parallel to any property line within twenty-five (25) feet of a hive and extending at least twenty (20) feet beyond the hive in both directions.

(Ord. 122311 , Section 23, 2006)

Gig Harbor has restrictions on keeping bees, not on keeping chickens.

I live in unincorporated Kitsap County and I can keep anything here. That includes bees, chickens, and livestock. Down the street in one direction is a small farm where the farmer raises and sells Polled Herefords. Down the street in the other direction is my next-door neighbor with his chickens, rabbits, ducks, and over 125 farm geese. I wante chickens or ducks, or both. The ducks would love the pond, and ducks eat slugs! Of course we have slugs. Who doesn't, in the northwest? In fact, I would delight in keeping chickens if I could get all the damn blackberry bushes out of my chicken coop...

Tell the editor of your paper that he ought to be glad that chickens aren't allowed to be carried onto domestic flights and let to run around on the plane the way they are in China.


Slugs the size of pythons... (4.00 / 2)
The ducks would love the pond, and ducks eat slugs! Of course we have slugs. Who doesn't, in the northwest?

I swear, one of 'em knocked on my door here in Portland the other day, told me his car his died down on Holgate, and could he use the phone to call a tow truck?

It was late at night and I'd had a few beers, but I'm 97% sure this happened.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


[ Parent ]
LOL (4.00 / 2)
I just about fell of my bar stool laughing!

When I was a kid my dad got 3 pekin ducks for slug and snail control. I watched one as she litterally beat the snot out/off of the slug, then ate it. Bill covered with slug slime, she happily went off to find another.

Very gross, but also very effective.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
The Seattle code (4.00 / 3)
is amazingly enlightened, about the best I've seen. That's great.

[ Parent ]
Comparing the carbon footprint of dogs to chickens (4.00 / 2)
Jill - I thought you might be interested it this. Yahoo just published an article analyzing the carbon footprint of dogs, and ends with suggesting that people choose "dual purpose" pets like chickens.

Here's the article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20...

My blog post about this: http://heirloomgardens.blogspo...


so cool! (4.00 / 1)
if you'd like, please cross post your blogpost here (with a link to your blog).

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

[ Parent ]
Polluting Pets: The Devastating Impact of Man's Best Friend (4.00 / 2)
(absolutely - thanks, Jill!)

Now, I own a dog. Our little Lucy is the queen of our house and definitely the apple of Brian's eye. So, I'm not anti-dog, or anti-cat (I own two cats).

What I am opposed to is people who support cat and dog ownership, but oppose chickens and goats because "they don't belong in the city." To hold that belief one must willfully disregard certain facts about cats and dogs. Cats and dogs are known to bite people, they can carry diseases that transfer to people, and their feces is toxic. Dogs can bark loudly at anything and everything.

In contrast, chickens and goats do not bite people, do not carry rabies or anything like it, and their feces is easily compostable. In fact, these animals are great at converting kitchen and garden waste into usable fertilizer. Plus, although goats and chickens may make noise occasionally, it is no comparison to dogs (specifically, the dogs in my neighborhood).

Now, Robert and Brenda Vale have analyzed the carbon footprint of dogs, giving us another fact to consider when looking honestly at the animals we surround ourselves with. The last paragraph of this article made me smile:

"But the best way of compensating for that paw or clawprint is to make sure your animal is dual purpose, the Vales urge. Get a hen, which offsets its impact by laying edible eggs, or a rabbit, prepared to make the ultimate environmental sacrifice by ending up on the dinner table."

"Get a hen," indeed! If only it were that simple.

Click here to read the full article - http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20...

Visit the Heirloom Gardens blog at http://heirloomgardens.blogspo... to see the photos that accompany this post.


[ Parent ]
If you'd like (4.00 / 1)
you can post it as an actual diary... anyone has the ability to do that. I will then promote it to the front page. Also, you might want to use this link for the article: http://www.vancouversun.com/te...

Yahoo links break pretty quickly.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman


[ Parent ]
Oh, I see... (4.00 / 1)
I didn't realize that anyone could post. Cool! I see that you already mentioned the article in your Sampler Platter, but I'll just know for next time. :)

[ Parent ]
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