Pot Luck

Ha! (4.00 / 2)

First!

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 21:06:31 PM CST

Had a long day today (4.00 / 4)

Butchered another rooster. We have way too many - 12 roos for 50 hens. You usually want a stocking rate of 1 roo to 10-15 hens.

I have some hens who've lost their back feathers from all that love, and I'll have to catch them up and put them in the brooder shed under lights before it gets too cold.

So I butchered another roo and made more chicken stock. The meat on these birds is dark red, and they cook up like the dark meat on a turkey. They make great chicken salad, and wonderful stock. I used the feet in this pot and I can tell the difference. I'll never throw chicken feet away again.

Tomorrow we slaughter our last emu of the season (unless someone buys another one), and I can't say I'll be sorry. That's a lot of work. Half of this one is sold, and so we'll have 1/2 emu to process ourselves. I figure that we have around 80 lbs of meat put up between the freezer and canned meat. Then I have stock that I've made from the necks, backs, ribs, hips, etc. I'm going to grind some of it as I don't have any ground emu in the freezer yet.

I have a whole new appreciation for people who work in slaughter houses. That's a bloody lot of work, in more ways than one! Sheesh, and I want to raise some broilers for us and the subscribers. Now I remember why I keep chickens for eggs (mostly). Collecting eggs and cleaning them is a lot less work for the ammount of food you get than butchering. On the other hand, it's kind of hard to make stock from eggs....   ;-)

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 21:19:19 PM CST

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50 hens (4.00 / 3)

wow! I didn't know you had that many.

Why do so many people not like the dark meat? It's the best part.

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by: count @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 02:27:27 AM CST

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We got a lot of chickens, lol. (4.00 / 3)

Dark meat tastes different. I know people who prefer light meat as it's milder flavored. Plus people are used to cooking and eating broilers. I like broilers, I'm going to raise some out here next year, and they're really better for roasting than the birds we have right now. On the other hand, I like the birds I'm butchering now better for stock making and stewing.

I think it's kind of like the difference between grass fed and grain finished beef. Even though the meat all comes from cows, the two taste different.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 11:32:48 AM CST

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Have read somewhere that dark meat contains more iron (4.00 / 3)

and white meat less iron. Therefore, for health reasons, this difference might provide a way to carving up and serving the bird: women capable of bearing children, children and adolescents, and runners should eat the dark meat. Men and post-menopausal women should eat the white meat. Runners tend to reduce the number of red corpuscles in their body because of the impact placed on the red corpuscles in their feet.

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by: cybercitizen @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 17:00:24 PM CST

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Not a well marbled steak but 66" horns! (4.00 / 4)

Longhorn Cattle Are Prized By The Inch

Texas longhorns - the cattle, not the college football team - have made a stunning comeback.

In 1964, there were believed to be fewer than 1,500 genuine longhorns in existence. Today, there are more than 330,000 in private herds scattered across the country.

The animals have grown popular among weekend ranchers who want a symbol of Western heritage but don't want the work involved with regular cattle.

Every year, longhorn breeders come to the Will Rogers Coliseum in Fort Worth, Texas, to answer the question: Whose horns are longer?

At this year's horn competition, held last month, the stock pens are full of handsome creatures with widespread horns, their hides brown, white, red, orange and brindled. Under bright lights, cowboys pull them into chutes and hold a string along the length of their horns to get the measure.

"We sell 'em by the inch, not the pound," says Donny Taylor, a heavy-equipment operator for Union Pacific Railroad who raises longhorns on the side. He says buyers like them because they're easier to keep.

"Longhorns are cheaper to feed than regular cattle. They'll browse like a deer - they'll eat anything in the woods," Taylor says. "You want to keep your fence row clear? You want to clear property? Don't buy a goat. Buy a longhorn. They'll clean 'em up for you. The good Lord built 'em that way."

It's really an interesting story about these "wild Spanish cattle brought to the New World by none other than Christopher Columbus." Now they are pets with little to no commercial potential. Of the reasons given in the story, real estate taxes and the savings that someone can get for a longhorn grazing by the front porch sounds like the most relevant.

In the words of Austin Powers "Do I make you horny."  

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by: Eddie C @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 22:18:47 PM CST

I love longhorns (4.00 / 4)

I also really like Ankole/Watusi cattle, but my absolute favorite of all time are the Brahma cattle (Bos indicus). The people Harold bought Niki the llama from have brahmas, and they have mini zebu cattle too. They said that the bulls are big babies, but the cows you have to keep your eyes on, they're ornery. Kind of reminds me of what a lot of people say about Lipizzan horses. Many people prefer to work with the stallions, they have better manners than the mares....

A gal wanted to trade me some longhorn cattle for tile work in her home about 10 years ago. If I'd had the pasture, I would have done it.

Longhorns are supposed to be pretty docile and gentle, good mammas, but pretty protective of their calves.

A big cattle ranch near here has a longhorn bull running with what appear to be black angus cows. I'm looking foreward to seeing what the calves look like in the spring.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 22:44:30 PM CST

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Longhorn... (4.00 / 3)

Just ran across this piece from my old state a few minutes ago -

MARLBORO -- The last of three aggressive long-horned steer that escaped from a farm in Colts Neck Sunday night and hospitalized the property's owner was tracked to Marlboro tonight, where police were forced to put the large animal down, authorities said.

The 2,000-pound bovine was spotted in a backyard near Route 18 in Marlboro around 7 p.m. tonight, Marlboro police Lt. Peter J. Pezzullo said. Police used flashlights to try and corral the animal in a wooded area on the property, but ultimately killed the steer sometime between 7:30 and 7:45 p.m., Pezullo said.

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Route 18 was shut down for about 20 minutes as police safely disposed of the steer's body. The animal was one of three steer that went wild when they were delivered to a farm in Colts Neck Sunday night, Pezullo said.

According to Pezullo, the steer that was killed last night attacked the owner of the farm Sunday, seriously injuring him. All three steer jumped over a five-foot fence Sunday night and escaped the farm, Pezullo said, but the other two animals were subdued and killed by Colts Neck police officers and members of the state Division of Fish & Wildlife Sunday night.

Heh, that's BRUUUUUCE's neck of the woods (Colts Neck)!

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 10:12:27 AM CST

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Further thoughts... (4.00 / 3)

Route 18 was shut down for about 20 minutes as police safely disposed of the steer's body.

What does "safely disposed" mean?

And I'm sure the animal could have fed quite a few families, right?

Jo!

Would the owner have had their loss covered by some kind of insurance, do you think?

Background here:  Colts Neck was (as most of that part of Monmouth County), up until only just 15 years ago or so, largely rural.  This is one of the parts of New Jersey that gave us the moniker "The Garden State".  The "backyard" the aforementioned steer was found in was probably wilderness as recently as 1999 or so.

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 12:02:40 PM CST

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So I guess in N.J. (4.00 / 3)

You would be better off with a Siamese as a backyard pet, or Bengal Tigers for that matter.  

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by: Eddie C @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 13:02:58 PM CST

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I remember that! (4.00 / 3)

Heh, the early rumors of the escaped tigers were blamed on Great Adventure, or (believe it or not) the rap group Wu Tang Clan, who apparently had (or still have) a "compound" in Jackson, NJ as well...

Fun times.  Heh...

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 13:29:13 PM CST

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Unless the animals were extremely valuable (4.00 / 3)

I doubt that the owner would have had insurance. If he/she was in business (farming, ranching, etc.), the cost of the steer would be written off as a loss on the tax forms. If I was the person owning the steer, I'd be hauling the carcass home to cut up. The hides and skulls are valuable too, if a person has a place to sell them to. At the very least you'd probably wind up with several hundred pounds of beef.

What ever it cost to contain the steer, the owner may be liable for expenses, which their homeowners or farm insurance should cover. In addition to homeowners liability insurance, we have farm insurance that would probably cover something like that. I'm sure that the area is not classified as open range, so if you have livestock that gets out and causes an accident, injures someone, etc. the owner would probably be liable, especially if the fencing was shoddy.

20 minutes to dispose of the steer's body is pretty fast. You don't just pick something like that up with a couple of pieces of baling twine. It'd be interesting to know how the carcass was picked up. Did they have a mobile slaughter outfit come in, county animal disposal, knacker? Even if a group of people were to cut up the carcass, and load it piece by piece, 20 minutes would be working fast, especially if the people weren't experienced in butchering.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 13:23:11 PM CST

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And then there were two... (4.00 / 4)

The Hillsdale Sunday Farmers' Market is now on its twice-a-month winter schedule, and Hollywood's last market of the season was last Saturday.

That leaves the Saturday PSU Farmers' Market and the Wednesday Peoples' Farmers' Market as the only weekly markets left.  Oh, and the Lloyd Tuesday Market which will be year-round for the first time this year, but that doesn't start until January I think.

Winter, bah.  Now I have to plan out like 4 or 5 or 7 days' worth of meals ahead of time.  Oh noez, it's been like over 8 months since I've last had to do that!

Okay, I probably shouldn't complain.  Especially since back in Jersey and many other places, the markets have been shut down for like 6 to 10 weeks already...

Still, now I know why bears hibernate.  Somebody wake me at the end of March!

:)

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:09:38 AM CST

Portland Public Markets... (4.00 / 4)

Bringing yesterday's Pot Luck conversation thread with Joanne on into a fresh thread -

I remember when I was a kid, I used to go to the market in DT Portland with my dad. It was kind of like the Pike Place Market.

Was that the Yamhill Market?

I've been doing some reading on the history of Portland's Public Markets, and of course I fully agree that a permanent public market is needed here.  Some opponents have pointed to the failure of Vancouver, WA's public market a few years ago as a reason to oppose it, but that's like comparing apples to, well not even oranges.  Downtown Vancouver, WA =/= Downtown Portland.  And of course, 2009 Portland is not the same Portland as when the last public market left in, what, the mid-80's or so?

Anyways...

Hell, maybe that's even where I'll end up working once I finally get all my shit straightened out!

Jay's Pierogi.  Jay's Knishes...

:)

The plans of the market people make it sound like it'll be sort of a Pike Place / Ferry Plaza hybrid.  There'll obviously be produce and meat and dairy folks, as well as flower sellers and winemakers and other food-related enterprises renting space there.

And they seem like good people too, local and very tuned in to our local foods movement.  Ron Paul (again, the Portland developer in charge of the project, not the Texas politician :)) also apparently ran 3 food establishments around downtown Portland in the late 80's and early 90's?  "Ron Paul Charcuterie", or something like that?

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:29:16 AM CST

flower sellers and winemakers (4.00 / 4)

Good Lord, let there be beer!

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by: count @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:34:47 AM CST

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Yes! (4.00 / 4)

Yeah, I think I also heard there'd probably be a brewpub as one of the anchor tenants.  A great idea, so the building will also be used and will draw people for most of the day, at hours beyond the typical 10 A - 6 P or so that a public market would probably be open most days...

That part of Downtown Portland could certainly use the nightlife, too.  And with Tom McCall Waterfront Park just across the street, it would have no shortage of potential customers.  Especially during the long dry & sunny Portland summer days.

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:43:12 AM CST

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long dry & sunny Portland summer days (4.00 / 4)

Hmmmm. Do you really live in Portland?

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by: count @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:56:41 AM CST

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Shhh... (4.00 / 4)

I don't think I was supposed to let that little secret out...

;)

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 04:09:06 AM CST

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Love your second link. nt (4.00 / 4)

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by: count @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 04:22:52 AM CST

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I think it was the Yamhill market (4.00 / 3)

I don't know when it was that the market shut down. I was born in '62, and I was still pretty little when dad would take us to the market. I'm thinking that it shut down in the late 60s early 70s? I'll have to ask him monday when I give him a ride to the doctor's.

It'd be nice to see something like that star up in Portland. I really do think the market's ripe for a week long permanent market like the old yamhill market. I agree with you that Portland's market and culture for local foods is very different now than it was in the 80s.

It would be a logical next step in the development of local food network/systems in Portland. One of the problems that people have with the regular farmers markets I think is that they're not as convenient as a market that's open week long. But the problem with a weeklong market is that you have to have enough people wanting to purchase local foods to support a more permanent week long and year long market. The existing farmers markets have been and will continue to build and encourage that demand, in my opinion. The two should be able to support each other by building and supporting the demand.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 11:27:41 AM CST

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Final Bloomberg numbers in... (4.00 / 4)

$102 million spent on his 2009 campaign, or about $174 per vote -

To eke out an election victory over the city's low-key comptroller, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg spent $102 million of his own fortune - or about $174 per vote - according to data released Friday, making his bid for a third term the most expensive campaign in the city's history.

Mr. Bloomberg, the wealthiest man in New York City, shattered his own records: He poured $85 million into his campaign in 2005 (or $112 per vote) and $74 million into his first bid for office in 2001 ($99 per vote).

And the $102 million tab is likely to rise, because the mayor has not yet doled out postelection bonuses to campaign workers, which have routinely exceeded $100,000 a person in years past. That spending will not be reported until after his inauguration in January.

Mr. Bloomberg has now spent at least $261 million of his own money in the pursuit of public office, more than anyone else in the United States.

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 07:24:11 AM CST

With the numbers I'm seeing... (4.00 / 3)

probably around $135 million Leona Helmsley could have been elected mayor. Oh that right, she's dead.

Here's a few living New Yorkers that could have purchased the office with Bloomy cash, money green. How about the ailing highest paid welfare recipient in New York,George Steinbrenner as mayor?

Henry Kissinger, still alive, still a New Yorker, still a far better deal than the Billionaire Buyout. As far a diplomats, Bloomberg is no diplomat but New Yorker John Negroponte was available for service.  

Both Naomi Campbell and Ann Coulter, two people that are far morel likable than hizzdishonor are New Yorkers.

Martha Stewart has a criminal record but that never seems to stop voters. Martha over Michael, well that would have been "a good thing." Actually for $135 million maybe Bernie Madoff, ankle bracelet and all could have pulled it off.

 

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by: Eddie C @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 13:28:59 PM CST

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Heh... (4.00 / 3)

Martha Stewart has a criminal record but that never seems to stop voters.

She should probably move on over to my old side of the Hudson, her past would be much less of an issue over there!

And Flying Spaghetti Monster knows, those asshats just turned out a decent and good governor in favor of one of Dubya Bush's prized lieutenants and participants in his US Attorney purgings...  

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 14:19:54 PM CST

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And how about Jack Grubman (4.00 / 3)

By the way Bernie Madoff was snark. He would have lost by at least three points as opposed to Blommie winning by three points with all that money.

But I went looking for the Fifty Worst New Yorkers and Jack Grubman caught my eye.

Winner of the "Most likely to cause angry mobs to run through Wall St. with pitchforks" award. Once a star stock analyst who made $20 million a year boosting doomed tech stocks (while companies were on the very brink of filing for bankruptcy), Grubman brought New York City to Caligulan levels of depravity when he agreed to boost his rating for AT&T stock in exchange for Citigroup chief Sandy Weill's help in getting Grubman's twin children into the prestigious 92nd Street Y preschool.

And that dude was only number 29 on the list but I would still rather see him as mayor of New York.  

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by: Eddie C @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 14:40:15 PM CST

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She is originally from New Jersey, after all... (4.00 / 2)

Maybe she should move back and run for office some time. ;-)

Act on Principles and make equality happen.

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by: atdleft @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 18:06:30 PM CST

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Russia train crash caused by bomb... (4.00 / 3)

Breaking from Russia -

A bomb blast caused the derailment of a Russian express train, killing at least 26 people, intelligence officials say.

The Nevsky Express derailed in remote countryside on Friday night as the train travelled between the capital Moscow and St Petersburg.

Investigators found "elements of an explosive device" at the scene, the Russia's federal investigative committee said in a statement.

A senior intelligence official said a bomb had derailed the locomotive.

Alexander Bortnikov, head of Russia's domestic intelligence service told Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that a bomb equivalent to seven kilos (15 lb) of TNT had been detonated, Reuters reported.

 

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 07:36:16 AM CST

water alert in Portland, OR (4.00 / 1)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

Prolly somebody already mentioned this, but just in case.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

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by: Miep @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 21:40:00 PM CST

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Applies to the west side of the Willamette only. (4.00 / 2)

If you are on the east side of the Willamette River, you are okay. The city also wants everyone affected to throw out all ice cubes made in the past few days and any water you may have reserved (in the fridge or the tea kettle).

So far, the Mt. Tabor reservoirs are clear.

Will this add fuel to the "cover the reservoirs" fire?

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by: caseyOR @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 23:43:21 PM CST

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I haven't looked into this story very far (4.00 / 1)

but don't they chlorinate the water?

Far as dealing with water on hand; my understanding is you can pretty much sterilize water by boiling it for three minutes or by eight drops of bleach per gallon. So people should also sterilize containers, not just toss the water, I'd think.

But maybe we're dealing with more resistant strains of e.coli? in which case the reservoirs are not the problem.

Cover the reservoirs, grow all food in greenhouses, sterilize everything. Oh, and irradiate everything.

This is all silly. There are practical ways to keep things clean, and if they're not working, something changed. Rule number one of investigation: figure out what changed. Rule number two: determine whether it's really something we need to have.


"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

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by: Miep @ Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 00:37:14 AM CST

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Interesting to note... (0.00 / 0)

I've heard many restaurants and bars downtown and in NW have been shutting down tonight "just in case".

I'm half tempted to take the bus up into The Pearl right now, just to see if it's a ghost town out there...

What a way to cut a weekend short, huh?

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 01:20:22 AM CST

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And another thought... (0.00 / 0)

What about the downtown hotels?

Yeesh, this could turn out to be a mess...

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 01:22:02 AM CST

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Yeah, and it's not just drinking the water (4.00 / 1)

that can make you sick with contamination like that. Showering, hand washing, etc. are problematic too.

We had friends about 10 years ago who bought a house out near Molalla. Their well became contaminated by their septic tank. It was a terrible mess. Turns out the company that drilled the well drilled too close to the leach field I think it was as it was a relatively new well.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 07:43:02 AM CST

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Couple killed en route to food pantry... (4.00 / 3)

Horrible story -

A former Jersey City pharmacy owner and his wife were killed by a hit-and-run driver Wednesday on their way to Thanksgiving eve Mass in Staten Island.

Peter Sabados, 78, and his wife Lillian, 77, both of Great Kills, were carrying food donations to Our Lady Queen of Peace Roman Catholic Church when the driver of a van ran a red light and hit them before fleeing the scene.

As if that wasn't bad enough -

Allmir Lekperic, 26, of Dongan Hills, Staten Island, has been charged with two counts of fleeing the scene of an accident that resulted in death. He is also charged with one misdemeanor, third-degree count of aggravated unlicensed operation of a vehicle.

According to reports, his license had been suspended at least 29 times.

Are you fucking kidding me?!

Why is it only a "misdemeanor" that this asshole is operating a motor vehicle after, say, his third or fourth license suspension?  Let alone his 30th time?!

And btw, how do you get your license suspended "at least" (what, did they lose count?) 29 times by the time you're 26 years old?!

That's an average of getting your license suspended every 13 weeks for your entire adult life!

What a horrible, horrible story.

And unfortunately, this is America... so I'll bet this guy will do no more than 3 or 4 years in jail for this, if that.

Kill 2 people with a gun or a knife?  Yeah, you probably won't see daylight as a free person again.

Rob a bank?  You'll probably do 20 or more.

Sell some drugs?  You'll probably get 10 years.

Kill multiple people with your car, and not to mention flee the scene afterwards?  You'll probably get a ticket or three, and maybe 12 months in jail.  Unless you can afford a good lawyer.  Ain't our "justice" system grand!

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 09:01:20 AM CST

Hey Jay (4.00 / 3)

Have you checked this out yet? Multnomah County and the city of Portland Jointly Adopt Climate Action Plan

Heard about this on the radio yesterday and downloaded it and I'm reading through it. It's a big file, 7-8 MB, I think due to all the pictures. Took me a while, but it's interesting.

As with any kind of a report or plan like this, some things I like, some I don't and some I don't think are too reasonable to ask people to do, like cutting their electricity use by over 50%. One of the things I do like is the high percentage of solid waste recovery. I don't know if their goal is attainable in the ammount of time they give them selves, but hey, you set a goal and then get there if you can, if not you readjust as you go.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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by: Joanne Rigutto @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 13:31:33 PM CST

Yeah... (4.00 / 2)

Setting the bar as high as possible is always the first rule of negotiation, right?

The hunger statistics are shameful, and I think the report they used is already outdated - Oregon is currently number 2 in hunger in the most recent reports.  Which is just absolutely disgusting, considering our state's bounty...

"Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization." - Eugene V. Debs

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by: JayinPortland @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 14:13:50 PM CST

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Hey Jill (4.00 / 3)

John Perkins just endorsed the National Initiative for Democracy!  I know you love his work, and we'd love to list you as an endorser, as well...

Vote for yourself at www.ni4d.us!

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by: rossl @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 14:57:37 PM CST

Apparently, we're all idiots for not eating Costco food... (4.00 / 2)

Or at least that's what Alan Richman wants us to believe after "punking" famed Le Bernadin Chef Eric Ripert. I dunno. At least Costco is a more ethical company than Wal-Mart or Target, but it's still such an unsustainable model for food. This isn't about "snobbery", but about survival. Can we really handle any more mass produced corporate garbage being sold to us as "the hottest new processed food-like product!"?

Act on Principles and make equality happen.

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by: atdleft @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 18:14:39 PM CST