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Vilsack Lays Out Priorities for Child Nutrition But Says Very Little

by: Jill Richardson

Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 14:49:54 PM PDT


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This week, Tom Vilsack had a conference call with reporters (you can listen to it at the link) about the Obama administration's priorities for the Child Nutrition Reauthorization. All in all, he said very little. He made no comment about whether or not the USDA would adopt the recently announced Institute of Medicine recommendations for school lunch, for example. And while he noted that the Obama administration wants an additional $1 billion per year for the next 10 years for child nutrition, he did not say what he or Obama wanted as the reimbursement rate - the amount spent per school breakfast or lunch.

In general, he wants three things. First, better access to school nutrition programs for children. Second, healthier school lunches. Third, less errors made by the federal government in managing the school lunch program.

Jill Richardson :: Vilsack Lays Out Priorities for Child Nutrition But Says Very Little
In the case of access, he actually did elaborate when asked. There are two problems here. One is that a kid who is eligible for free or reduced cost school lunch may not get signed up for it. The second is that a kid who is signed up may not actually get their free lunch because they are embarrassed to do so due to some sort of social stigma attached to it.

In the first instance, it may be that the kid is bringing home some kind of paperwork for the parent to fill out and that form may get lost in a bookbag where the parent doesn't find it. Or it could just be that this is one more form the parent is filling out after already going through other processes and filling out other forms for Medicaid, Food Stamps, CHIP (children's health insurance), and whatever state programs they may qualify for. That's a hassle. Given that these other programs are already verifying that the parent's income is below a certain level, Vilsack would like to see "direct certification" for school lunch programs occur. That means that the government would stipulate that if you qualify for one program, you automatically qualify for school lunch and you don't have to fill out a second form.

Vilsack didn't speak in much detail about the other problem, but he did mention that kids might be hesitant to take part in any program that made them look different from their peers - like a free lunch program that requires them to get in a separate lunch line from the "normal" kids who pay for their lunch.

The big news Vilsack had about making school lunches healthier is that he and the Obama administration are FOR setting a national standard on the nutrition of ALL foods served in schools, including a la carte and vending machine items. That is a change from current policies. Right now school food is, by and large, a free for all where anything goes. I look forward to seeing that changed. Vilsack mentioned that he wanted to see kids eating more dark green and orange vegetables, fruits, low fat and nonfat dairy, and whole grains. He wants them to eat less sodium, refined grains, and "discretionary calories" (I think that's a nice euphemism for "junk").

The most entertaining question was asked by Tom Ritter of WNAX, a radio station in South Dakota. He wanted to know Vilsack's thoughts on the Baltimore school district's participation in Meatless Mondays. Vilsack first claimed ignorance about the specifics of the program and then totally weaseled his way out of the question by speaking about the importance of federal nutrition standards for school meals.

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separate lines (4.00 / 3)
Leaving aside the very relevant question of Vilsack's weaseliness - why doesn't everyone who eats at the cafeteria use a magnetic card? Parents pay for cards up front, a student doesn't know how much his neighbor's card cost nor what it says, all students use the same lines, and the appropriate per meal fee is deducted from the card. The cards cost something to make and use but if people aren't using cards there must be a cashier, which is a system cost.

I don't know - are school systems not using cards already? If they are, what is the problem?


Some schools... (4.00 / 2)
Some schools no longer allow cash, and everybody buys lunch with tokens or tickets (or maybe cards too, although I haven't heard of any of those myself), so that the tokens don't "give away" those children who are on free or reduced lunch.

I never received it anytime during school myself (although at times, maybe my parents were "too proud" to apply, so I may have even been one of the statistics myself and never have known it...), but I remember more than a few kids who'd just pick at others' lunches in the cafeteria.  It's obvious now why that was.  Kids can be cruel...

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Your comment better than mine (4.00 / 1)
because your first paragraph is thinking more broadly.

I never received it anytime during school myself

Poignant. As I've said before, I graduated from high school in 1959. Cross my heart, I do not remember paying for school meals. I might be totally wrong, but as I remember, our only question was, did we have first lunch period, or second or third? Not a bunch of choices, no corn dogs or chicken nuggets, the food was good and we were pleased to eat what was offered. Vending machines were unknown, and look at me now!

Our physical education teacher was also the football coach. Our small school football team was state champion while he was there. Later, he was football coach at Fresno State, and his tenure might have been the only period during which that school's football team received national attention. He was a great believer in conditiong and strenuous physical education classes. When our lunch period immediately followed phys ed, women teachers would stop at our tables and ask why we weren't eating, why were we only drinking milk. We said we just came from gym, they nodded and went on their way.


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I believe that some schools are using cards (4.00 / 2)
One school or school district in Washington state, if memory serves, tried to get rid of their cards in favor of a little finger print reader. The device would have read the print on an index finger or thumb in order to keep track of which kid was buying food at the school cafateria. The reasoning behind this was so that kids couldn't exchange cards.

Oh, boy! You should have heard the hoo ha over that one. The official reason for using the fingerprint readers was innocent enough, but most parents didn't want their kids' fingerprints in the school database, especially not as a condition of getting a school lunch.

I think the cards were originally put in for convenience and so kids wouldn't have their lunch money stolen. As someone who had to put up with extortion from my class mates before I learned to fight in grade school, I can attest to how disruptive and intimidating these types of bullies are.

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Vilsack is a master of evasion (4.00 / 3)
when he doesn't want to answer a direct question.

On the other hand (4.00 / 3)
do any of us really expect him to come out and answer a question like that in an honest and straight foreward way? Think about it. If he said he thinks it's a good idea he slaps all the meat producers in the face. If he says it's not a good idea, he's dissing telling everyone who is concerned with global warming, what some consider excessive meat consumption, etc., and if he answers in the way he did he gets called a weasel.

I agree that his answer was weasely. Unfortunately being the rope in a tug of war between different groups in this country goes along with the office. Sometimes being a rope is the mildest the job can offer. Sometimes office holders are more like a prey animal that lots of predators all have their teeth sunk into and they're all trying to rip the person limb from limb in a political sense. What a hell of a job to get yourself into.

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Something to think about, though... (4.00 / 2)
Why is it so controversial that one city is doing one meatless day a week?  And that's only in the cafeteria, as far as I'm aware kids are still allowed to bring ham sandwiches for lunch (aren't they?).  And it's only one meal out of that day, too.

It really says something about our current system that it would be considered "slapping the meat producers in the face" just by pointing out that human children are not tigers or zombies or some other obligate carnivore who need meat provided to them at every single meal, all day, every day.

That's the thing here, imho...

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I agree with you and (4.00 / 1)
I also agree with everything Joanne said. Whatever happens during school, the kids still get to eat whatever outside of school. How can it be a bad thing to tell people, however minimally, that fruit and vegetable are great?

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Although I agree with everything (4.00 / 1)
Joanne wrote, I wish some parts of it were not true.

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Alum of Catholic school here. (4.00 / 3)
I went to school in the '50s and '60s, when Catholics did not eat meat on Fridays. Even though non-Catholics were free to eat meat that day, everyone seemed to serve meatless Friday meals. Seafood was allowed, which is why, I think, clam chowder was so prevalent.

Anyway, my point is no one was bent out of shape about a chunk of the population having a meatless day. School lunch programs and restaurants all honored the meatless thing. Of course, non-Catholic establishments served meat to any who wanted it on Fridays.


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Great point! (4.00 / 1)
I grew up in North Jersey, in towns where everybody was either Jewish, Catholic or A.M.E.

Except me, of course.  I always had to be different, the "atheist in the ointment".  Heh...

Anyways.

Yeah, I definitely remember hanging out on Fridays as a kid, in the late 80's and early 90's, going out for pizza with friends.  I wasn't vegetarian yet back then, and I was the only one who did the pepperoni or sausage on Fridays amongst my almost exclusive "Catholic Clique".  I remember some smaller pizzerias, specifically in certain Italian neighborhoods, even only ever had "plain pies" ("Newarker" for "cheese pies") on on Fridays.

Great point, in that for so many millions of people back in urban ethnic East Coast neighborhoods, regular "meatless days" are even a matter of faith.

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Not just the East Coast (4.00 / 2)
I grew up in the middle of Illinois. The midwest is chock full o'Catholics. And I have never noticed a dearth of Catholics out here in the west. Catholics are the largest single religion in the USA.

The point remains, however, that all across the country we already have an example of a meatless day of the week. And it has not caused the meat industry to collapse.


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Here's my hypothisis - (4.00 / 3)
It's controversial because the meat industry is making it controvertial. The meat industry is making it controversial because everyone and his cousin, from the global warming activists (Livestock's Long Shadow), to organizations like PETA and HSUS, and, yes, many people (ourselves included) in the local foods and slow foods movements, have been bashing them over and over and over again for years now until they (the meat industry) have a hair trigger.

Kind of reminds me of a dog my folks friends had. They got the dog as a puppy and he was a freindly, happy go lucky pup. A german sheperd puppy. They would put the puppy in the back yard every day when they went to work, and the school kids would taunt the puppy on their way to and from school every day. Eventually the puppy turned into a biter and had to be gotten rid of. True story.

That's what we've done to the meat industry. We've turned them into biters. For years they've seen people working to eliminate them through one venue/technique or another - EPA regs, PETA nuttiness, organizations taking undercover videos of bad actors in the commercial livestock industies and using those to paint the whole industry as treating their animals that way, which, in my opinion is a false claim, etc. When you beat someone about the head and shoulders often enough they tend to become a bit deffensive.

It's also a big issue to us because we, (those of us who are in the food movement), are paying attention to this issue and we're dialed in to the controversial side of things related to food. Most of the people I know don't even know of 'Meatless Mondays'.

I'm not saying that there aren't very real issues surrounding the industrial meat part of our society, because there are, and they are issues we're all going to have to address sooner or later. I'm just saying that, from a behavioral stand point, I'm not surprised that in some segments of our society, this is an issue.

Also, people on both sides of the school lunch issue forget, I think, that just because there is a school lunch, doesn't mean that kids are forced to eat it or go without. That would be true if it was illegal to bring your own lunch, but, fortunately, we haven't gotten to that point in this country yet. At least in the public schools. If we ever do, well, then, that's when we all will need to be very worried. Personally, I don't want the government to tell or dictate to me what I may or may not eat. Provide information on foods, that's all well and good, but not dictate to me or mine.

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Excellent analysis. (4.00 / 1)
I agree with you, as usual.

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Joanne (4.00 / 2)
great comment. BTW, I've been trying to email you and failing. The pics you've posted in your diaries won't show up for me - the ones of Traveler or the ones of my visit to your farm.

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Ah, (4.00 / 2)
I need to rewrite those diaries.

I lost my hosting service and my domain name is locked untill I can either get it transfered to a new registrar or at least get it pointed to new nameservers, which means that I need to get a new hosting service, which means money which I ain't got right now.

I need to upload those pics to a service like Photobucket and then point the hot links that'a way.

You can get a hold of me through my other email - loiosh@molalla.net

It's a long story about the hosting service. I've got info up on that over at the blog I set up for the farm - The Little Homestead Farm

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