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Day 4 as a Vegan: Starvation, Headaches, and Caffeine Deprivation

by: Jill Richardson

Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 06:00:00 AM PDT


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It's not supposed to be this punishing to be a vegan, and when I was vegan for a year, I enjoyed what I ate. That said, I've been barely functional without my daily coffee (with cow's milk). I don't think I realized before what an addict I am. Then, without caffeine in me, I've been too sluggish to bother with cooking - which resulted in an entirely new problem: foraging in the kitchen for enough vegan calories that don't have to be cooked. It doesn't help that I've had migraines for the last several days - probably due to financial stress, not veganism.

Yesterday, I solved the caffeine problem by hitting Mama's Bakery, a local Lebanese place, and ordering some Arabic coffee. Depending on where you are eating, it's called Greek, Turkish, or Arabic coffee, but it's basically the same thing no matter the name, and it's served black. I've been a fan of the stuff since a trip to Greece back when I was 16. Along with my coffee, I got a fried eggplant wrap.

Other than that, I've been eating lots of oranges, nectarines, apricots, and toast. Two days ago I went to the co-op to stock up on various types of whole grains and nuts. The nuts cost a fortune so I got one and a half pounds of walnuts and left it at that. I started choosing grains based on price - rolled oats and millet for $.99/lb - until a nutritionist I was chatting with made a strong case for the $3.99/lb red quinoa.

Yesterday I decided to "cook" my quinoa and ended up scorching a pan. It shouldn't be that complicated. 1 part quinoa to 2 parts water, cook for 20 minutes. So now I've got a scorched pan soaking in the sink. I tried again with a 2nd pan and succeeded. I added brown sugar, raisins, and cinnamon. I should probably add some soy milk too but I forgot. Now I'm hungry again, and I just ate another apricot. I've got asparagus, broccoli, a tomato, a cucumber, a potato, and carrots in the fridge - I just need to work up the energy to do my dishes and then cook one of them.

Jill Richardson :: Day 4 as a Vegan: Starvation, Headaches, and Caffeine Deprivation
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The wrap sounds nice! (4.00 / 6)
Can't wait for eggplant here.  I ate at a Greek food cart downtown yesterday, had the best damned falafel sandwich in my life!  That is so going to replace pizza as my occasional 'junk' food for the next 6-and-a-half weeks...

:)

Those are tough though, because a lot of the places around here throw yogurt into their sauce.  This one uses plain ole' vegan tahini, though.

Other than that - I'm beginning to like black coffee, and my sea beans are awesome in salads.  Gonna pick up a bunch of mushrooms today, and a few other things I think.  Breakfast will be coffee (black), and oatmeal (plain, just a pinch of salt).  Handful of strawberries on the side, and maybe a small salad.  Cucumber, spinach, sea beans, olive oil & garlic.  Gonna do emmer & beans w/ a variety of roasted veggies (zucchini, cauliflower, broccoli) tonight for dinner.

I would email you some if I could! :)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


nice (4.00 / 5)
if this migraine doesn't go away, I'm breaking down and having ONE latte and calling it medicine. There's nothing that makes this pain worthwhile. My head has hurt for days now. Days.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Yes... (4.00 / 4)
Medicine, exactly.  Please do whatever you have to do to feel better, Jill!

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!

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OK, feeling better (4.00 / 3)
went for a hike. The hike helped a lot.  

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Won't one of you guys please try (4.00 / 4)
coconut milk in your coffee? Sounds like such a good idea. If you don't, you'll force me to do it and report back, even though I usually drink coffee black.

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Okay, let us know! :) (4.00 / 4)
No offense at all to anybody who drinks it that way, but I'm just not that experimental I guess.  And besides, I'm beginning to like it black, which is something I've always wanted to try anyways...

I agree, it does sound like a great idea - but it's just not for me.  I'll either do coffee with cream, black, or I won't do coffee at all.  Guess I'm just stubborn there, sorry! :)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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OK, now you've done it! (4.00 / 4)
I'll buy some coconut milk today.

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Sorry I couldn't help either (4.00 / 3)
coconut is just one of those flavors that only works for me on certain things, same with cinnamon. I don't like to push the boundaries on either of those.

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an inadvertent recipe! (4.00 / 3)
coffee + coconut milk + cinnamon sounds delicious!

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Soy milk? (4.00 / 2)
Does it really have to be cow milk in that latte?  Soy milk foams up nicely enough, in my experience.

I am very intrigued by this coconut milk idea... but many cafes offer soy milk as an option for lattes.


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of course (4.00 / 2)
You'd have to ask your barista what soy milk they use--after the recent post on soybean sourcing, I'm thinking of dropping a note in the suggestion box at my favorite cafe encouraging them to switch brands.  Still, you wouldn't have to break your brief veganism.

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by the way (4.00 / 5)
I ate the asparagus. I haven't been sleeping well and I think the migraine is a bigger problem than the caffeine although they might be related. But I think the real problem is financial stress. Ive been in a real panic about money ever since the car insurance bill showed up in the mail.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Yeah, it's also known as farro... (4.00 / 4)
I am President of the American Emmer Eaters Society!

Omg, the best stuff I've ever eaten.  Period.  My favorite food.  Mine is grown by Bluebird Grain Farms, out of Winthrop, Washington.  It's at all of the co-ops around here, and in a few other specialty stores (like Pastaworks), as well.

If I ever do manage to escape to a farm of my own one day, I will definitely make sure that I would be able to grow some emmer on my land. :)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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when i visit you (4.00 / 4)
I am eating emmer.  

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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Awesome! (4.00 / 3)
It would be the greatest pleasure to introduce you to my favorite food!

:)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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alright, (4.00 / 4)
now I'm lookin' up emmer....Quinoa I like, amaranth, not so much, but I love the flowers.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

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I made home made falefel (4.00 / 4)
it was ok..I am going to track down dried fava beans as I was told by my friend and cook book author, the combo of fava and chick peas make the best...

Jay...my new favorite vegan food is socca. Apparently chick pea flour makes good pizza dough too. I am going to make that tonight


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Oh, wow... (4.00 / 2)
Just looked it up, socca sounds great!  Never had it before, will have to try it soon.

You're doing the pizza tonight?  Let us know how it comes out!  I could go for one with, say - spinach, chopped hazelnuts, fresh garlic, broccoli and olive oil right about now...

:)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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chick pea flour is the bomb (4.00 / 5)
I'm using it for everything.BTW...I found Bobs redmill garbanzo flour to be better for the socca than besan flour I bought from the local Indian grocer. I made socca Sun..In the batter I put fresh rosemary and on top carmelized onions with fresh tomatoes. I served it a a brunch and there wasn't one sliver left.


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Bob's Red Mill? :) (4.00 / 4)
They're about 5 miles from where I sit typing now...

:)

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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The besan I bought from my local Indian grocer (4.00 / 3)
is just great in a normal pancake recipe. I tried this after experimenting with your socca recipe. This is Meera gram flour, "milled by Chantry Flour Milling Inc., Southampton, Ontario."

Neither of my neighborhood conventional groceries carries chickpea flour, although they offer some Bob's Redmill products. I assume no customers have requested it.

What is it about the Redmill product that you prefer over the other one?


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Bobs Redmill I find in regular grocery stores (4.00 / 4)
Indian besan flour or gram is raw.. I think Bobs is roasted because its nuttier...anyway I like the flavor of Bobs better

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I like your sig line (4.00 / 4)
Reminds me of mine. :)

Sad thing is it's true.

I have succumbed to the Twitter craze. @Omir55


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Yeah... (4.00 / 3)
just wish I could find out who to credit!

It's been floating around for days (even though I'm sure it's much older than that), I first came across it at Jim Kunstler's blog Monday night.

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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I saw it on a protest sign (4.00 / 4)
on a diary over at Big Orange well over a month ago. Darned if I can remember what protest, though. It might have been against the bailout, but that doesn't sound right.

I have succumbed to the Twitter craze. @Omir55

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day 2 here (4.00 / 8)
Jill,

I'm a Jewish Mom..Ok If truth be told I'm a Jewbo but I really miss taking care of people via food. I can't come and cook for you, but I maybe I could write a weekly column of vegan recipes and shopping lists. I have been cooking vegan food for 5 years til my daughter went off to college and have been refining recipes for years. I promise the recipes will be easy and fast...

but it may be easier for me as I am not being as "strict" as you. But I learned with my daughter you have to have foods in the fridge she can grab.I was pretty sure there was going to be no vegan food on her Continental flight to Delhi so I packed her a bag. In it I packed my home made bread, tabouli and my tofu spread

Daughter arrives in Delhi tonight...I'm ok although I cried all down the NJ turnpike..


Tabouli (4.00 / 3)
Will you please post your recipe for tabouli? There are many recipes on line, but I haven't been able to come close to the one at my neighborhood Lebanese restaurant (maybe I should ask the chef if he'll share?)

What is a Jewbo? I don't know the term.


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sorry...getting used to Mac shortcuts (4.00 / 4)
my daughter is in India for the summer and left me her Mac

Jewbo..

I am an agnostic Jew who belongs to a synagogue but practices buddhist principles and meditation.

Lee


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Nishiren Shoshu Buddhist? (sp?) (4.00 / 4)
I know several and they too are all Jewish. And thanks for the explanation. I was drawing a blank too.

If the rain ever lets up you're invited to come and pick beans, LeeN. I have the feeling once the sun comes out we'll up to our eyebrows in string beans.

Yankee Frugality: use it up, wear it out, make it last, or do without.


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where are u? (4.00 / 4)
physically I mean...I'm outside Philadelphia

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Fishtown/Kensington (4.00 / 3)
A couple of blocks from the Dauphin St end of the York-Dauphin El stop.

Yankee Frugality: use it up, wear it out, make it last, or do without.

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I'm sorry to hear that, Jill (4.00 / 6)
Your headaches sound awful. It's bad enough dealing with migraines without also having to change the way that you eat. I feel for you!

When you feel up to it, it's a good idea to make some snacky things to have around for these kinds of occasions. (And we all have them.) Things like humus, tofu/garlic dip, black bean dip, salsa, babaganoush, guacamole, that kind of thing (most of which don't require much cooking at all to prepare, last a while once made and taste good cold). Keep vegan crackers on hand, too. You could also stuff some grape leaves with cooked grains, currents, tofu and mint and keep 'em handy in the fridge to serve with a garlic tahini soy yogurt dipping sauce.

I know it's not the most locavorian thing to do, but I keep cans of organic refried beans around that I pop open up and spread on toast. Quick and easy snack (and good cold, room temp or hot). Soy yogurt is good to keep on hand; you could mix in some of your strawberry jam.

Don't forget about organic peanut butter or vegan granola as good, quick, high-calorie, high-protein snack foods, too.

Oh, and you can cut up and roast a bunch of root veggies (carrots, potatoes [reg or sweet], turnips, radishes, parsnips, etc.) until they're tender and sweet and then keep them in the fridge. They're pretty tasty even cold. And don't forget about things like potato, macaroni and pasta salads made with veganaise. It's important to have things around that you can just stick a fork or spoon in and eat.

For the caffeine issue, you could drink black tea instead, with or without lemon.

I hope you feel better soon!

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


high protein nut butters. (4.00 / 2)
I have never understood that concept. On average, nut butter calories are about 70% from fat, 15% from protein, and 15% from carb, although individual products vary around that rule of thumb.

Not that I'm knocking organic nut butter - I eat a lot of it, but as a good source of taste and organic fat, not as a good source of protein.


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It's certainly not as high in protein (4.00 / 2)
as soy (or meat or dairy, neither of which Jill is eating at the moment) but 7 gms of protein per 2 Tbsps isn't bad. I'll admit that "high-protein" might have been a bit of an exaggeration. :)

I was just thinking in terms of Jill needing more bulk in her diet; things that digest slowly and make you feel nice and full for a while. Nut butters deliver on that, and in a pinch you can just stick a spoon in the jar, so they're extremely convenient as well.

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


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Medicinal Latte. Now there's a concept. (4.00 / 5)
Sounds perfectly reasonable. But... I'm not even vegetarian.

This morning's discovery!

tiny mantis

Are you...   talking to me?

One of two baby Praying Mantises perched on the sage bush. The body is only 1/2" long.

Sorry for the OT. I couldn't wait any longer to share this.

Yankee Frugality: use it up, wear it out, make it last, or do without.


Terrific photo, AB! (4.00 / 3)
Love all the detail you got of that sage leaf!

I've had epazote on the brain since yesterday. It didn't occur to me when I first saw your photos that it might be epazote because I didn't think it had sprouted yet (I think it's early because of all the rain this year), but I went for a walk after work yesterday and found it everywhere, so I'm becoming increasingly convinced that's what your neighbor is "growing."

However, I'm a confused/concerned by the fact that "the nose" didn't smell anything resinous. It shouldn't be particularly strong at this point (though it gets stronger later) but when you crush the leaves and sniff there should definitely be a piney/medicinal smell, especially when compared to an essentially scent-less plant like lamb's quarters (and the two plants are closely related, by the way). If it doesn't have that scent (and the stem might have more of it, so you can try crushing and sniffing that too), I have no idea what it is, and I don't want you to take any chances with it!

I recommended epazote minced into beans yesterday, but apparently the more authentic/safer way to use it is like bay leaves or a bouquet garni-- a whole leaf or 2 tossed in during cooking and then removed before serving. You can also use a tea ball if the mixture you're adding it to is liquidy enough. It adds an interesting background note to tomato sauces and soups as well as beans. But as I think I mentioned yesterday, it contains some substances that are toxic in quantity, so you should never use more than small amounts or make tea with it or put it in a salad (though you could steep half a leave in a salad dressing and then remove) or anything along those lines. (I've eaten little bits minced into things in the past and not died, but better safe than sorry.)

Probably more than you wanted to know about epazote, but I researched it last night because I'll be writing about it soon now that it's made an appearance. :)

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


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OK. Def piney smell (4.00 / 2)
I had clean hands this time. Smooched a leaf in my fingers. And there's a distinctive smell. The leaves are still young and small, so maybe they get more pungent as they get older.

--> I <-- , myself,  won't be doing anything with it. Whether I can get The Palate(tm) to incorporate it into her spice repertoire still remains to be seen*, though she does know it's to be used sparingly.
*Think: room, pile of horseshit. (I'd be covered in it.)

Thanks. The camera is a Canon Coolpix L6 on macro close-up. The pic was rendered through LView Pro - a very old and very simple version of Photoshop - and was "detailed" once.

The subject was most obliging; never moving except to turn his/her? head for this, the second pic.

Yankee Frugality: use it up, wear it out, make it last, or do without.


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Yay! (4.00 / 2)
I'm now confident that you have epazote. Do with it what you (read: she) will. (And from one good cook to another, please tell SWMBO [in the kitchen] that a leaf or 2 really adds something special to a pot of beans. Delicioso!)  :)

Oh, and it also makes beans easier to digest, if ya know what I mean...

The resinous smell will indeed get stronger as epazote grows. The plants will get about as tall as lamb's quarters (about 2+ ft) and believe it or not the leaves of the 2 plants will get more and more similar-looking as they mature. It can be a little hard to tell the mature plants apart (especially if you haven't watched them grow from seedlings), which is why the smell becomes important.

P.S. I have a Canon 590A. Canon's are terrific cameras. It's my first digital camera, I bought it about a year ago (after doing loads of research) and simply adore it.

And now I'm absolutely, positively done thread-jacking. :)

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


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I'm telling ya... (4.00 / 6)
coconut milk in coffee!! It's delicious! Yummy, good-for-you fat too. For cooking from scratch, check out http://www.thenourishinggourme... for a lot of basics (she loves the meat and diary but not all recipes include that). You probably know that blog already.. I think I found my way there from here!

I eat almost entirely vegan except eggs (organic only). The dairy I don't miss AT ALL. Took some getting used to though. You'll get there soon! Good luck all!  


Coffee (4.00 / 3)
Why don't you just drink it black? or with soy milk? Or some sort of nut milk?  

This doesn't sound good (4.00 / 6)
I just need to work up the energy to do my dishes and then cook one of them.

If you're to the point where eating your dishes sounds good I suggest you end this little experiment toot sweet.

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Just kidding! But sorry about the migraines.

I have succumbed to the Twitter craze. @Omir55


Was I REALLY eating that much dairy?! (4.00 / 7)
Without all that cheese in my belly I am also super hungry all the time!!  I was pretty much not eating any animals anyway-- cheese and yogurt are the big difference.  

Anyway I've been trying to be sure and get plenty of fat and carbs.  Weightloss is all well and good, but I really want this to be sustainable-- at least for the 6 weeks-- and that means I can't be constantly distracted by the hunger monster. A staple for me is ezekiel bread with nut butter, cinnamon, and agave nectar (no cooking required- unless you count the toaster).  On day 2 I made a huge vat of mashed potatoes with unsweetened ricemilk and olive oil-- awesome.  Also BEANS = MAGIC! And I do loooove a soymilk latte now and then.  I figure in a week or so my body will have adapted to the change and I'll feel more even-keel.

I'm also going out tonight for vegan pizza-  gotta love New York!


where are u in NY (4.00 / 4)
I am in Philadelphia and my sister lives at 38th and 9th. When my daughter and
i visit we always look for vegan places to eat.

I am dreaming about monterrey jack cheese


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vegan pizza (4.00 / 4)
the pizza place is called "Cave Viva" and it's at broadway and W. 94th street.  not fabulous atmosphere but when you want a giant slice of pizza with no cheese or meat it totally hits the spot :)

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A healthy vegan diet gives you energy (2.67 / 3)
Getting off the animal protein gives you energy!  It sounds to me like the caffeine addiction is getting in the way of truly reaping the benefits of a vegan diet.  

Animal flesh has very few nutrients, and certainly no fiber.  Your kidneys and liver need to work hard to break it down, and since it is acidic, it disrupts your body's ph balance, leading to fatigue...plus inflammation and disease (or dis-ease).  Plant-based sources of protein are rich in anti-oxidants, fiber, minerals and vitamins.  Plus the fiber in plant sources of food should fill you up without stuffing you or making you feel bloated.  And since those calories are more efficient, you'll lose weight healthily.

Good luck with the transition -- your body will thank you for it! :)


Ummm . . . (4.00 / 4)
really?!

"Animal flesh has very few nutrients . . . "


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Well... (4.00 / 4)
I agree with some of what you say, but you really lose me (and probably a lot of other people in this community) when you say that animal flesh has very few nutrients.

Here's a nutrient chart for 4 oz. of organic beef.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage...

There are many negative things you can say about meat, but saying that it has very few nutrients is bullpucky.

The info's from The George Mateljan Foundation for The World's Healthiest Foods. They're a non-profit with no industry affiliations. While they are selling a book, they also seem very interested in educating people whether or not they buy the book. When I read what they say about organic foods, I was impressed:

Can organic foods really improve my health?
Yes. Organically grown food is your best way of reducing exposure to toxins used in conventional agricultural practices. These toxins include not only pesticides, many of which have been federally classified as potential cancer-causing agents, but also heavy metals such as lead and mercury, and solvents like benzene and toluene. Minimizing exposure to these toxins is of major benefit to your health. Heavy metals damage nerve function, contributing to diseases such as multiple sclerosis and lowering IQ, and also block hemoglobin production, causing anemia. Solvents damage white cells, lowering the immune system's ability to resist infections. In addition to significantly lessening your exposure to these health-robbing substances, organically grown foods have been shown to contain substantially higher levels of nutrients such as protein, vitamin C and many minerals.

Their list of the world's healthiest foods is a good one, based on nutrient density, availability and affordability:

http://www.whfoods.com/foodsto...

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


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I used that site a lot my first year (4.00 / 4)
with the CSA to learn more about the produce I was receiving. A friend of my found it when she was diagnosed with diabetes to help her adjust her diet (she has a nutritionist also).

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I never knew... (4.00 / 2)
they were selling a book?  Lol...

Anyways, I just recommended that site to somebody here last week.  Great source for introductory information on a wide range of whole foods and grains, for those who are wanting to try to begin to eat better...

Coming soon to a Philadelphia near you!


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Nutrient Density (4.00 / 2)
It's a great site, but do they have a list that arranges foods in order of nutrient density?  This site seems to ask you to do that comparison yourself, or did I miss something?

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They do for individual nutrients (4.00 / 1)
but not across the board (which I'm not sure is even possible if one thing has 100% vitamin A and another 100% vitamin C, how do you compare them?).

Here's the link for where you can click on lycopene (or a whole host of other things) and see which foods are the most dense for that nutrient.

http://www.whfoods.com/nutrien...

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


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Nutrients from Veggies :) (4.00 / 2)
On thing that was interesting to note- esp. in a discussion of veganism-- is that there was only one nutrient- Vitamin D- for which no plant source was named, while there were many nutrients with no animal source and even those that could be obtained from meat/poultry/fish or dairy tended to have a better ("more dense") vegetable alternative.  The big outlier for that generalization seems to be the B vitamins.  Fascinating and thanks for the link!

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Most nutritionists will tell you (4.00 / 3)
that the best source of Vitamin D is the sun... plus, it's free. I believe it only takes 10 minutes of sun a day to get the full RDA, so typically if you spend some time outside at least once a week you're fine. Of course, that gets less and less true from mid-fall to mid-spring for those of us living beyond the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, which is why I take a supplement during that time.

Lots of plants are as good as or better than animal products in terms of density. I would never argue about that! There are some issues with bioavailability in some plants, though, and I didn't see a discussion of that on The World's Healthiest Foods, but I might have missed something. The calcium in spinach is a classic example:

Spinach also has a high calcium content. However, the oxalate content in spinach also binds with calcium decreasing its absorption. Calcium and zinc also limit iron absorption.[9] The calcium in spinach is the least bioavailable of calcium sources.[10] By way of comparison, the body can absorb about half of the calcium present in broccoli, yet only around 5% of the calcium in spinach.

I say all this as someone who only eats meat occasionally (like 2x per week, if that) and who has to be careful about eating dairy because of lactose intolerance (and, just to make things interesting, I'm intolerent to Lactaid as well). Nonetheless, I believe there's a role for meat and dairy in the human diet, although I think that role is unfortunately exaggerated in some parts of our society.

Michael Pollan said it best: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." I'd insert "local" in the middle of the first sentence as well. I've got the first and last parts of that down pretty well. The middle one I'm still working on, though. :)

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


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Re: Scorching the pan & the time it takes to cook grains/beans/vegs (4.00 / 4)
Try a pressure cooker.  There are lovely modern electric ones with timers, like Crock Pots, but I use a basic stove top one. It has saved me hours every week and no more burned pots & wasted food, and beans are tender and creamy.
One of the easiest and fastest ways to cook grains/beans using a pressure cooker is to use it as a double boiler/steam oven-  Insert the steamer platform, put about one cup of water in bottom of cooker (depends on the size of cooker), put your grain or beans & water in a heatsafe bowl (steel mixing bowl works well) or pot that fits inside cooker onto the platform. Properly soaked beans may cook in as little as 10 minutes, rice usually quicker. There are great websites about pressure-cookery and what features/models are available.

Or a rice cooker. (4.00 / 3)
Pressure cooker would be quicker than a rice cooker, for sure. One of my rice cookers is a very old 3-cup South Korean one. It doesn't have a timer but works great once you know the ratio of quinoa (or emmer or bulgar or...) to water. Small, convenient, a modern one shouldn't be very costly - I'll look it up.

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good lawd, maude (4.00 / 2)
Zojirushis are hellaciously expensive, but other brands are reasonably priced at Target or Amazon.

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I love my multi cooker (4.00 / 3)
http://www.amazon.com/Fagor-El...

absolutely love it. bought one for my mom also. Yup, she's making good use of it also.

I also have a 10 and 23 qt pressure cookers for canning that I can use for "large" cooking.


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I didn't know about that. (4.00 / 2)
Is that a fairly new product? Good idea.

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I'm not sure (4.00 / 3)
I got it last summer when looking for a new rice cooker. My cat knocked mine off the counter. I thank him now, lol!~

It's really nice in the warm weather since it's electric. I also like to use it for rice/beans/etc while I'm cooking on the stove. Less stove clutter. Last night I used it for rice while I stir fried a bok choy/prawn dish. And things with timers that stop when the time is up just make my life so easy {grin} Between this and my convection oven (which I bought while looking for a new micro) keep my kitchen very cool in the summertime. I have an old gas oven/stove from the 20's, so it puts out a lot of heat when you use the oven. I can do my breads, etc in the convection oven during a heatwave and not even break a sweat!


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I change my mind. (4.00 / 2)
That isn't a good idea, it's a great idea. After doing some searching, I see a lot of things called multi-cookers, but your Fagor seems to be the only one with presssure cooker capability.

How do you like it as a rice cooker? How does it accomodate the different requirements for white rice, brown rice, and other grains, for example?


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Perhaps I can answer my own question. (4.00 / 2)
If I had that appliance, I probably wouldn't use the rice cooker mode. My first thought would be to use timed pressure cooker mode (either low pressure or high pressure) after experimenting to find the appropriate amount of water and proper time.

Does that sound reasonable? Is that what you do?


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I use the rice cooker for the faster cooking rice (4.00 / 3)
and the pressure cooker for the longer cooking ones. In the beginning I experimented with the times, but I don't worry too much because you get more cooking during the slow release and when the timing is done it flips over to warm so you can start it earlier than you need, which I do often with the longer cooking rices, etc. That way if you need another minute or 2, you don't mess up the rest of the meal and it stays warm until you're ready to eat. It works GREAT for quick black beans (well, quick for Black beans!) I roast a lot of chickens so after the meal, I pull off the leftover meat, add some water and veggies and it makes a killer broth that you can can or freeze. It comes with a book to get you started with times and the recipes aren't bad. My mom and I both liked the baked bean recipe. I make a ton of veggie meals and soups in it also. I got Miss Vickie's Pressure Cooker book and that's real handy for for figuring out how to cook your normal recipes and also has good recipes. I have some kale to eat, so I'll do a kale/lentil dish in it and perhaps grill up some fish. You can make 30 minute meals turn into 15~ I haven't used the slow cooker much, but my mom does. If she has to run around all day, she want's the meal done when she gets home. Me, I work at home :)

There are 2 other brands out there and I honestly can't remember why I settled on this one :)  


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