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Yes, you can avoid mosquitoes without using DEET

by: desmoinesdem

Sat May 23, 2009 at 18:41:28 PM PDT


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Here's one for the gardeners and nature-walk lovers in the La Vida Locavore community.

I got my first mosquito bite of the year yesterday, so I knew it was time to get out the bug spray and post a new version of this diary.

Unfortunately, many public health authorities still recommend using insect repellents containing DEET. Having researched this issue a few years ago after my older son was born, I would not recommend DEET for anyone, especially children or adults living in a household with children.  

desmoinesdem :: Yes, you can avoid mosquitoes without using DEET
The Environmental Protection Agency does not permit DEET products to be labeled "child safe" and requires labels directing parents not to allow children to handle the product. The American Academy of Pediatrics and the Environmental Protection Agency both recommend precautions when applying DEET to children, such as washing skin treated with DEET as well as treated clothing when children return inside. Few families find it practical to bathe their children and wash their clothing every time they come in from outside during the summer.

Kids Health for Parents, a web site published by the Nemours Foundation, recommends that repellents containing DEET be used "sparingly" on children between the ages of 2 and 12 and not put on their faces or hands, because children so frequently put their hands in their mouths.

The Lyme Disease Foundation has this advice for keeping ticks away: "On skin, use a repellent containing DEET. But don't overdo it. Too much bug spray can cause breathing difficulty, especially in children."

In any event, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has found that "repellents containing the ingredient picaridin or the oil of lemon eucalyptus can protect people against mosquitoes as well as repellents containing the chemical DEET."

Grist reviewed several DEET-free alternatives last summer. The Daily Green listed a few more DEET-free insect repellents here.

I've tried several of the products mentioned in those pieces. We mostly use Buzz Away, but other DEET-free brands seem to work well too. The main difference between them and DEET is that you have to reapply the natural repellents more frequently, about every one to two hours. Usually that's no problem for me, because I only need it when I walk the dog or take the kids to the park for an hour or two.

Share your tips for beating the mosquitoes in this thread.

After I posted a version of this diary elsewhere, I got an e-mail from an avid gardener who swears by generic-brand listerine in a spray bottle. Reapply every hour or two, she says.

Also, at Mother Talkers Jenniferfree2bme posted a great tip about home-made spray using catnip oil. I don't know whether this idea is practical if you share your home with a cat, though.

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my solution: (4.00 / 5)
move to a city without mosquitoes. For some reason, mosquitoes LOVE me. The entire time I was in the midwest and Texas I was a bug magnet Nothing DEET-free worked, although I can't quite remember if DEET worked either. I think it did? It's been a while since Girl Scout Camp if you know what I mean. The most successful things were long sleeves, pants, socks, and closed toed shoes. Not that anyone wants to wear that in the summer when it's muggy.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

I'm like that too (4.00 / 4)
I've always liked to joke that people should pay me to take me camping with them.

DEET works on me except when the mosquitoes get going strong here, and very hungry. I've learned the other tricks; do outside stuff earlier in the day, or midday (with full hot sun), wear loose long sleeved clothing, don't drink alcohol while you're working outside (apparently something about that attracts them), there's all sorts of little things you can do, none of which work particularly well for me. We get some serious mosquito-borne disease here, I'm history.

My mother is so unattractive to mosquitoes that not only does she never get bitten, but the one time one tried, she told me once, it keeled over and died. On the other hand, she gets sunburned. I've often wondered if people who tan easily also attract mosquitoes more, though I don't have anything much to base it on.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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That's why I married my wife! (4.00 / 3)
Mosquitoes love her! So when we go walking together, they bite her and leave me to enjoy the mosquito-free walk.

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I've read about this a fair piece (4.00 / 5)
and I've found several strategies - avoidance, blocking, and oil repellents. The oil repellents that come up most often are citronella and eucalyptus, mixed into olive oil maybe 1:10, 1:20?

I plan to make my own when the mosquitoes get going, which may well be soon as there has been this strange thing happening here; the sky has grey stuff in it and drops of water are falling out of it! Damnedest thing I've ever seen.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


You can do this with pets also (4.00 / 4)
Mosquitoes don't like me, so I feel blessed. I think I may have gotten a few bites as a very young child, but after that, I haven't been bitten in at least 40 yrs. I also seem to be graced with pets that don't attract fleas, ticks, or mosquitoes.

You do not need to apply toxins to your pets, especially if they are low/no risk. There are many natural applications that will keep you from having to apply toxins to your pets. I would suggest googling around for some info, or speak with a vet who practices with natural along with traditional. Just keep in mind, what works for a canine or human could be toxic to a feline, or for a feline toxic to a dog etc (essential oils etc, you really need to research!). You can buy cloth collars and apply certain applications o them. You can spritz the pet with applications etc. Again, what works for one, could be toxic for another, so don't assume. And my gut belief is diet also plays in :)

The first year I had my dog, I did use "preventive" (aka toxins) with her. Wasn't happy about it, but knew the flea, tick, etc risk as I was around enough shelter dogs to see how many from my hood came in with them. Second season, I only did them sparingly (3 times between April and first frost. Please note, many "monthly" applications last longer!). After that . . . nothing. I decided it was better to deal with a problem if there was one vs "preventive" toxins. All can be dealt with if you stay on top and catch anything early. If I saw any, fleas ticks or skeeters near or on my dog, I would start dealing with it. If I lived in a super high risk area, I would start with the "alternative" preventives at the beginning of the season. When I move, I may have my pets in a higher tick risk area, and I plan to address that when I get there. But we'll be doing the natural preventive route first, which not only looks at the pet, but the home and surrounding property. Toxins are a last ditch option, and I just don't see that happening. Aside from the short stint with my dog, it's been 25yrs without.

As far as catnip oil goes, I have a catnip plant that I bought at the botanical garden and the little tag does say it's an insect repellent, along with about 4 other herbs I bought. So far my cats don't seem to interested in the catnip or mint plants, which has me totally baffled. I thought I would have to keep them in my work room (which they aren't allowed in, dangerous to them). But all 5 are so not interested so far. Would I put catnip oil on me? Nope, not that brave, lol!~


I asked jennferfree2bme about this (4.00 / 1)
She said,

We had 2-3 cats when we started using it. They're indifferent except if I spill a bit of the oil when I'm mixing it up.


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Using DEET (4.00 / 1)
I suppose you are right about DEET, though I've never felt bothered by it.  But then I don't normally use it much. When working out in the garden, once bug season gets serious, what I do is spray and wet down my shirts with Permethrin (sold as Permanone IIRC) and let them dry.  I spray the underside of the brim of my wide-brimmed hat with DEET. That combination works pretty darn well in leaving me mosquito-free.  

prevention (4.00 / 2)
My wife and I planted lemon grass, and patchouli all the way around our house. We have pennyroyal in pots all over in random places. This seems to lower the amount we have around here. Cooking on an open fire makes them seem a bit more tame. Often when I am doing detailed work in a confined area, I bring along a bee smoker (this works best). When I work in the garden, I grab a handful of patchouli leafs, and rub it all over. Sandalwood water spray works pretty good too.

Most of all I think is tolerance. They use to bother me, I was constantly itching little bites everywhere. But once I gave up and just accepted them, I no longer noticed them. I get bit dozens of times a day, but cannot remember the last time one itched.  


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