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Sampler Platter 05.12.09

by: Jill Richardson

Tue May 12, 2009 at 04:47:54 AM PDT


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SNL skit - sooo funny (4.00 / 2)
Very similar to old celebrity jeopardy, except better because it exposes the hypocrisy of the banks and the idiocy of Tim Geithner.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/b...

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman


neighborhood fruit... (4.00 / 3)
I have apple and pear in the back, but they haven't been sprayed and I don't get a lot. But the ground hogs loves what falls to the ground.

If the birds don't eat them all, I have a huge bumper crop of blueberries because I have 10 bushes.This year I have bought a big fake owl to try and scare the birds away.I hate netting because birds get caught and its a pain in the ass.So  I put a sign on my wall and encourage my neighbors to bring their kids and pick.


as a small farmer who interacts (0.00 / 0)
with his industrial farming neighbors

i hear the constant thrashing of how gmo is bad etc.

heres my take. if we for a moment forget the bad policy from the feds that promotes the over growing of commodities like corn.

in the old days of hybrids. they plowed in fall and spring then planted followed up with lot of tilling. very petro intensive.

the next phase was the use of herbicides to cut back on tilling. then there was the insecticide spraying for cut worm to increase yields.

most of my neighbors now use a no till regime , one herbicide application and no insecticide since they use bt corn. how is this so evil? its way less petro intensive and no insecticides are being used either.

instead of the same old same old mantra of this is bad blah blah I'd sincerely like to hear from Jill or someone what model these farmers should be following?
 


Im not a farmer Bud (4.00 / 1)
So I don't want to be the one telling farmers what to do. But what Ive heard from the Rodale Institute is that their organic no-till method of growing corn and soy usually results in higher yields than conventional methods and GM crops.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

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i keep bees on an organic farm (0.00 / 0)
where they grow corn and soybeans.

you should see the massive yield losses from cut worm! yuck.

marvin has a hard time making ends meet too.

i dunno - there are no easy answers Im afraid. its not as black and white as it may seem.

if rodale info is real then you would think the smart farmers would be switching over left and right.  talk to the elevators who buy organic and conventional corn to find real yield numbers. not some printed report....

conventional corn has some amazing yeilds. I've seen it first hand since a kid as it has grown. i'm afraid the propaganda that GMO uses more chems and has bad yields is just that propaganda.

someday there will be an intelligent discourse instead of emotions and we might just get somehwhere.

i see ag as a continuum with radical organic on one side and heavy industrial on the other.

neither side is the best for both worlds. we will see biotech blend with organic maybe not in my lifetime (50yo) but in the future. technology is good or you would not be reading my post!


I'm not anti-technology (4.00 / 1)
you misunderstand me. I don't see ag as a continuum at all. i see it as two options: Nourish the life in the soil, or kill it all and replace the functions that it would have provided with chemicals. You can do either method the wrong way, no doubt.

Re: Rodale and why people don't convert left and right? Because of massive propaganda trying to convince them that it isn't possible. Thats why. Also, re: yields... Rodale did say that in their farm systems trial for over 20 years, in most years organic had higher yields, but even if that weren't the case, you would not NEED such a high yield if you grew organic because a) you're not paying for the expensive inputs and b) you'll get higher prices for your crop.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman


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an article re: CyClone dairy (4.00 / 2)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

guess i wasn't the only one pissed by their 'joke'

come firefly-dreaming with me....


Neighborhood Fruit... (4.00 / 1)
Cool site!

We've got on here for Portland, Urban Edibles, which even has nuts, herbs and even a few free veggie sources...

Every city should have such a site.

"The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks." - Christopher Hitchens


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