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A Corporate Shill's Viewpoint on New York's War on Salt

by: Jill Richardson

Sun May 03, 2009 at 12:00:00 PM PDT


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You know that quote about how it's better to remain quiet and let people think you're an idiot than opening your mouth and proving that you really ARE an idiot? Center for Consumer Freedom's David Martosko should really think about that.  
Jill Richardson :: A Corporate Shill's Viewpoint on New York's War on Salt
Here's his latest:

To New York officials, who simply won't mind their own business, salt and cooking oil might as well be cyanide. New York City "health czar" Thomas Frieden has committed himself to forcibly removing almost half the salt from New Yorkers' diets. And Gov. David Paterson has announced that his new War on Obesity will begin with a statewide expansion of New York City's trans-fats ban. If Paterson succeeds, margarine and shortening will become contraband almost everywhere food is sold in the Empire State.

Anyone familiar with our country's track record on internal "wars" (think drugs and poverty) should be skeptical of anti-fat crusades. Adding a little extra salt to your french fries, or cooking them in an oil that some people find tastier, isn't worthy of government intervention.

The problem isn't a little bit of salt that you sprinkle on your french fries. It's the MASSIVE amounts of sodium that is ubiquitous in our foods. And people die from these things. Martosko's title is "Leave food choices to eaters: Bans don't work. Government should relay safety concerns, and then butt out." What about other enjoyable things people like consuming, like heroin? That would be a VERY popular item if it were legal. It would create a fantastic new market too. It would add to GDP. Poppy farmers could make money. And people like it. Why don't we let the market determine how we handle heroin and have the government butt out?

The government does not handle its "war on drugs" well, but even a good policy on drugs recognizes that heroin is bad for you and doesn't just say "let the free market regulate it." Heroin kills people and detracts from the wellness of our society and so do certain foods in the quantities we eat them. Ban salt? No. But clearly when we let the free market regulate it, we end up with too much of it in far too many products. We end up in a place where companies are preying upon consumers, selling them diets that are not healthy. Diets that kill. No, you won't die from one hamburger. But I don't think any government official is trying to prevent you from eating one hamburger. They are trying to make sure that you aren't preyed upon by companies who would be content to feed you an entire diet of hamburgers - and fries and soda and Krispy Kreme donuts, etc.

Now, while I disagree strongly with Martosko, I also think the government is not handling this well. I think the government has totally 100% fallen into what Michael Pollan would call "nutritionism." They look at the health of food based on which nutrients it has in it. Does it have fat? What kind of fat? Calories? Sugar? Vitamins? And that determines whether the food is "good" or not to the U.S. government. But there's no measure in there of whether the food is real or not. Did the food come from a plant or an animal? And is it still in a recognizable enough form that we could name which plant or animal it came from? And did it require special chemical processing to create it? Does the nutrient value come entirely from fortification? Because processed white flour and sugar combined with palm oil (no trans fat!) and fortified with 100% of your recommended daily allowances of 11 essential vitamins and minerals is NOT real food. And until the government changes its tune to realize that, I believe that we won't have good policy, particularly with regard to the food allowed in school cafeterias.

Grist's Tom Laskawy agrees with me on this. He says:

Rather, the fundamental problem with Bloomberg's approach is to try to address health one nutrient at a time. Bloomberg and his health commissioner point to their "success" limiting trans fats as a model for the salt reduction policy. But trans fats, which are so potently bad for your health, are frankly more similar to a poison than a nutrient. While they do occur in trace amounts in nature, trans fats are just a manufactured food additive that play no role in human nutrition.  Their presence in processed food is a by-product of food companies' search for inexpensive ingredients with a long shelf-life (i.e. partially hydrogenated vegetable oils).  We had no business eating trans fats and never would have if not for the efforts of food processors and manufacturers.

Trans fat bans are thus the exception to the nutrition rule (and thus more like toxic substance regulations), not the model on which to base all future policies. Indeed, it's the nutrient-based guidelines that have gotten us in the pickle we're in now, and it's why you can eat Froot Loops and M&Ms for breakfast, a cheeseburger for lunch and 3 slices of pepperoni pizza for dinner and still stay safely within the USDA food pyramid.

Meanwhile this ongoing focus on nutrients just keeps the food companies happy as they get to roll out new products based on the latest food fad. To wit: according to the WaPo, we're now seeing processed food with fewer ingredients. Five ingredient ice cream (which Haagen Dasz has introduced) is great-who needed that carrageenan and guar gum anyway. And corn chips that just have three ingredients are, well, better than corn chips with 15 ingredients, most of which were unpronounceable. But I'm reminded of the Jay Leno-era Doritos tagline, i.e. "Crunch all you want. We'll make more." And that's exactly the issue right there.

He says New York missed the forest through the trees. I think they missed the forest through the salt shakers.

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Like I've said, (4.00 / 5)
the Center for Consumer Freedom's real name should be the Center for Slowly Crushing Your Freedom Through Intervention Like Subsidies That is Subtle to the Consumer But is Very Effective in Manipulating Your Choices Indirectly and Making a Certain Lifestyle the Only One that Works for Most People, or CSCYFTILSTSCBVEMYCIMCLOOWMP.

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very well done (4.00 / 3)
but "Like Subsidies" screws it up. Otherwise, excellent!

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi

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Some points are being missed by all (4.00 / 1)
it isn't just about the fat or the sodium. It IS about real food and awareness.  Bloomberg isn't just banning fat and sodium. He's raising awareness, pushing to get more fresh food in 'hoods that don't have them in the way of FM, grocery stores (yes, grocery stores) and produce carts etc, banning sodas in school etc, nutritional labeling at fast food restaurants, etc. Paterson prob shouldn't have called it a "war on obesity" and I don't recall Bloomberg every saying it was. Bloomberg recognizes from the many angles what good nutrition means, healthy children, preventive health etc. leading to the positives of lower health care and all those other money angles. Bloomberg is basically a "green mayor", so it's really pretty absurd to think he's not addressing real food. Heck, we had the first Farm Aid that was all local food! And the City is obviously fairly receptive to the local food movement. The Park and Rec has supportive programs, and we have local food movements (Brooklyn food conference yesterday was heavily attended at a local PS and other locations with folks from all 5 boroughs). Our community gardens, farmers markets etc depend on cooperation with the city, which seems to be encouraged by the Bloomberg admin.

And as far as I'm concerned, bring on the sodium war!! {grin} I've been plagued by excess sodium in food my whole life. I don't personally use much (now only kosher or sea) so eating out at the wrong place just makes me nuts. You don't really realize it until a bit later. If the food tasted over salted, that's one thing and you can send it back. I'm talking about all the hidden sodium. It may be because I've always had a low processed food diet, but damn . . .

Have you ever noticed how states/cities/towns/etc do things that end up being a real positive and it catches on? What is wrong with banning trans fats, excessive sodium, and other things that they do individually, right down to milk labeling etc? I think it's actually quicker to ban things on a smaller2larger scale vs trying to get warning labels put on bad "food"  ;) Also, the trans fat ban and nutritional labeling really opened some eyes during the process that they were working towards it. It becomes a discussion. This is not like the war on drugs. EVERYBODY needs healthy real food, we all don't take drugs nor do we need them to live. And right now is the perfect time to talk about the food issues. The "average" citizen is pretty aware of our collapsing food system at this point. More people are cooking at home because of the recession etc. Our local news stations have had plenty of helpful reports on how to save money by buying real food and cooking. And it's happening on national shows also.  

The reality is, the Obama's can plant their garden, but even if they didn't they wouldn't be eating the crap most Americans are offered. Pollen can say whatever he wants, but I'm guessing there's a large % of average Americans that aren't tuned into his network. But when their Mayor says no more dangerous trans fats allowed, well . . . . What better way to start stopping the flow of toxic food? It's not a one prong approach.


actually it is like the war on drugs (0.00 / 0)
to the extent that it's about definitions and consistency. Compare the resistance to banning transfats (that have no food value and are poisonous) to the hassle raw milk dairies have to go through.

"What defines 'safe food'" is quite a similar question to "what defines 'safe recreational drugs'" in that there is a huge amount of inconsistency in the individual answers, and it's clearly driven by corporate interests, not logic. Whatever your standpoint on whether we need legal recreational drugs at all, at least one might argue that we not outlaw relatively safe ones while we are simultaneously keeping relatively dangerous ones legal.

There are class issues with recreational drug use too; people with lots of money and doctors can get all the Oxycontin or tranks or whatever suits them they want, and don't tell me none of that makes them happier. But the people smoking crack in the ghettos to take the pain away for a bit; they get nailed.

Likewise, poor people wind up eating toxic "food" much more than rich people do, so this, too, is a class issue.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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You miss my point (0.00 / 0)
It is NOT about drugs nor the same thing as drugs. It's about getting real food in the poor (and all) hoods, not allowing massive amounts of trans fats (sodas/junk food in PUBLIC schools, etc). It's about taking back our health and well being (no matter rich or poor) from Big Producers who are giving us dangerous foods in sometimes very deceptive ways.  You want raw milk available? Well gee, methinks you're going to need to get people on the right track for that one. The raw milk fight is not a priority to most (and quite frankly shouldn't be). There is no way in heck that's going to go very far without getting the influence of Big Ag reduced. We are at square one. Get the sh!t out of our diets and get more real food. Bloomberg is not ignoring the lower income field here. If he was, I might have a different opinion.  His million tree project is populating the hoods with trees. My friend's block just got cherry and apple (damn was she excited!!). He's expanding fresh fruit and produce availability, offering subsidies etc to get more stores/farmers markets/businesses to supply fresh food, which includes ways to make it even more affordable to the community. When he goes off on trans fat, sodium, lack of labeling at fast food joints and such, he partners it with positive action. And at the same time makes folks more aware. It's not a class issue aside from the fact some 'hoods are poorer. They are the ones getting the attention. Other 'hoods already had the good food option.

If you want to consider this a drug war, welp, Big Ag is the drug. But then again, we could fight the Mayor/his admin on this and the poor people can keep eating junk food.

Keep in mind, I'm not speaking to all communities across the nation, I'm only speaking NYC. But if we make progress on getting more real food and less toxic sh!t to all of NYC, maybe more will jump on board (with us and other cities doing this) and big producers will be forced to change. I have my beefs with Bloomberg, but he's pretty darn decent on the food/green front. He's not just making "safe" (let's call it what it is REAL food) food available to certain economic levels. That would go against his vision/purpose. His concentration is eliminating toxic food and getting healthier diets to all. But he seems to understand there are those who are more challenged at having access/affordability, so he concentrates there on making more access. Maybe I'm  missing something, but that sounds like a good thing to me. Maybe down the road we can push those boundaries, but I think we need to build the first square. You are not going to get acceptance  to things like raw milk until we reduce the influence of big ag, and that's not going to happen until we expose them, ban their toxins and create alternative options for all.

And I should mention, when I say Bloomberg, I am also talking his admin because I do believe this isn't all him. I know there are people in his admin and not, actively working on positive things. He just happens to be receptive to them. I don't believe it's all top down, but I do think he's close to like minded judging by some of what he's done.


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well, perhaps you miss my point as well (0.00 / 0)
as I don't think, nor did I say, that food regulation was the same thing as drugs or about drugs (although to be honest in some ways it's about drugs, to the extent that unhealthy food can be addictive). But I don't want to argue that point.

My comment was that there are strong parallels between food safety politics and drug politics, and there are.

Still, I think that going too strongly to eliminate unhealthy food will get you in trouble; you are not going to get the support of the majority of the populace if you get too extreme about regulation. There are some salient examples that are reasonable to address; transfat is surely one of them.

I am more of the mindset that says healthy, sane, free people are less likely to get addicted to unhealthy habits, and that legal solutions will not address why people are so unhealthy, crazy and trapped. I think you have to go at it from both directions; simply trying to protect people from their own inclinations will be perceived as treating them like children by many; you get backlash that way.

Labeling laws are a good direction to go in.

Anyway, I wasn't throwing rocks at Bloomberg; you seem to be jumping to a lot of conclusions here. And I am no fan of Big Ag. And I certainly agree that giving people more choices is an extremely sensible approach.  

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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Maybe we should drop "food safety" as a term (4.00 / 1)
along with using "war on drugs" as a comparison?  They are both about 2 different things. The resistance we seemed to get about banning trans fats etc (here) was from big ag, not the people. And it isn't about safe food, but healthier food. What's going on here, is getting as much healthy food in the hoods as junk food (if not more). It's about getting nutritional food in the schools vs sodas and crap (there's a clause in the Farm Bill that makes it so our local farmers can't supply washed and cut fruit and veggies to the schools for snacks because it becomes "processed foods")

I am more of the mindset that says healthy, sane, free people are less likely to get addicted to unhealthy habits, and that legal solutions will not address why people are so unhealthy, crazy and trapped. I think you have to go at it from both directions; simply trying to protect people from their own inclinations will be perceived as treating them like children by many; you get backlash that way.

But if the healthy food is NOT available and the food that is available gets more compromised everyday, you can't achieve that. And that is what the mayor is working on. Getting more healthy food and basically restricting/limiting the worst ingredients. He's not banning fast food, he's saying there's limits as to the levels of known toxins can be in them at the same time as increasing the options for good food in areas that are lacking. Frankly, I don't hear any whining about the lack of trans fat in foods since the ban. There's no backlash from the people that I've heard. I have a feeling if the sodium whatever goes through, most people won't notice because it isn't a case of cooks dumping too much salt on food. I really don't see how this is different than labeling milk that has added whatever, aside from the fact the bad additives are being limited (on the supplier end, the people are free to eat as much as they want). When labeling is available with the milk, the consumer has tended to chose the milk that is without the additives. In a way, it's local government countering not just big ag, but their lobbyist also.  And in those instances (milk labels) where we win, it IS the will of the people. Most people don't think about trans fats, sodium levels etc. I would have to guess they don't think about that toxic plastic can liner, either, when they eat out or when their family is eating food at an "institution" like a public school, yet they may think about it when they grocery shop because they heard about it on the news. Placing regulations on things in favor of the people is a counter to all that we seem to have no control over (as a mass) like big producers and their lobbyist.

Some of people's consumption of not so great food is totally innocent also. It's not like long time brands put that "new and improved" burst on the front of a package to tell you they have altered the ingredients. Do you read the ingredients every time you by longtime staple in your diet?

I just want better food for everyone (and education about food). If my mayor says we don't want to peddle trans fats, excessive sodium and we want nutritional stats available in restaurants, I'm fine with that. If he crosses the line to telling us what to eat, he's got a problem.

my apologies for seeming defensive about the mayor (and everything else). I sometimes get beat up when using him/his admin as examples in situations (heh, I live here! can't use an example that I'm not involved in in some cases!) and I know everyone isn't thrilled with him. But hey, he's done some good things that I get to live with  :) and he's also pissed me off.


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food (0.00 / 0)
>>Do you read the ingredients every time you by longtime staple in your diet?

No, but I do very frequently. Many people aren't as reading-friendly, and I respect that. But if we make everybody put ingredients labels on their products, then sooner or later people like me are going to go after them if they put something toxic in there.

And...that's good!

Yes, food safety and the war on drugs (the war on us) are different battles, but the politics are driven similarly. In both cases, it is indeed a class war.

I think the diaries here and on Kos about community gardens and farmer's markets are the way to go with this discussion. Good for Bloomberg for spending some money to push things in that direction. I respect that, and I respect your taking the time to blog about these issues as well.

"If God were to appear to starving people, he would not dare to appear in any other form than food." - Mahatma Gandhi


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