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Reuters Fights Conspiracy Theories - But Misses the Facts

by: Jill Richardson

Fri May 01, 2009 at 06:00:00 AM PDT


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If you think the swine flu came from a factory farm, you're just a crazy, tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist, says Reuters. Here's Reuters defense of the Smithfield factory farm:

Dead pigs in China, evil factory farms in Mexico and an Al Qaeda plot involving Mexican drug cartels are a few wild theories seeking to explain a deadly swine flu outbreak that has killed up to 176 people.

Nobody knows for sure but scientists say the origins are in fact far less sinister and are likely explained by the ability of viruses to mutate and jump from species to species as animals and people increasingly live closer to each other.

Aha! People who think that the swine flu might come from swine are as crazy as people who think that Osama bin Ladin caused it! Fortunately, a HuffPo piece by David Kirby gives us the facts. To refute the Reuters claim that "Some of the rumors mentioned noxious fumes from pig manure and flies, neither a known vector for flu viruses," Kirby says:

Last year, the Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Practices issued a landmark report that described air emissions - or "noxious fumes"- measured outside large concentrated animal feeding operations, (CAFOs), or factory farms. In addition to toxic gases such as ammonia, methane, hydrogen sulfide and others, scientists also measured high levels of particulate matter and bioaerosols blowing out from the giant vents at the end of each massive animal confinement.

"Particulate matter associated with CAFOs is composed of fecal matter, feed materials, skin cells, microorganisms, and the products of microbial action on feces and feed," the report said.

He adds that:

La Gloria, Veracruz, thought to be the epicenter of the pandemic, is close to a massive hog complex that generates the same amount of raw sewage as a small city every day.

Oh, and the flies? Yeah, turns out those can carry the flu virus too.

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bacteria sources as you refer to are not virus sources (0.00 / 0)
The farms are convient to blame, but the evidence to date clears them.

"Miguel Ángel Lezana, the government's chief epidemiologist, said in an interview that pigs at the farm are from North America, while the genetic material in the virus is from Europe and Asia."

http://online.wsj.com/article/...


I'd be interested in a link that shows that flies (0.00 / 0)
can carry flu virus. As far as I know, they can only carry it mechanically, as in, if they land on flu virus, it could stick to their feet and be dropped a short distance away. As far as I know, this is a pretty inefficient transfer and I'm not sure it's even been documented to happen. With bacteria, or viruses that can reproduce inside the fly, the calculation is totally different.

As far as I can tell, pigs, like humans, don't shed flu virus in feces (birds do). So even if the pigs were sick, it's really unlikely for flu virus to be in a CAFO lagoon. Presumably sick pigs sneezing might get some virus on floors, which might be washed out into the waste lagoon, but this would be a pretty small concentration, and the flu virus can't reproduce except in living host cells, in this case pig cells.

I'm sure this CAFO has a horrible waste lagoon, and it wouldn't surprise me if it is causing asthma and respiratory discomfort, or if it was teeming with nasty e. coli or other bacteria. But flu virus seems unlikely. A more likely path, if the CAFO is actually the source, would be a worker sick with human flu who caught a swine virus directly from the pigs, which then had the two viruses mixing and matching in the human to make our exciting and novel H1N1.

As it was, he did a deal with a blancmange, and the blancmange ate his wife.


There's another article over at (0.00 / 0)
Grist that I just read. One thing that jumped out at me was that they are vaccinating the pigs and the pigs can then shed the virus. Reminded me of when I was at the vet before a holiday and he was talking on the phone to a kennel about when to require the vaccinations etc for boarding because of the virus shedding issue. Overcrowded animal shelters tend to have high levels of KC and I'm guessing it's partly due to the fact they vaccinate on intake and then the animals got into the general population, so you have animals that aren't protected from the vac yet but around the virus being shedded.  And the vac doesn't provide full protection when it does kick in. General rule when taking an animal out is to isolate for 10-14 days.

Here's a rundown on KC and transmission etc.

http://www.peteducation.com/ar...

I really don't even want to imagine what's growing at the pig farms! Sounds like mutation heaven to me . . .  


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The virus they would shed then would be (4.00 / 1)
the regular swine flu virus, which is not generally going to infect a human. If it did, it would most likely be a worker who has direct contact with the pigs, not a child who lived in town.

I am very concerned that the end result of this focus on Smithfield won't be the end of CAFOs, but rather even more cafo-ization of pig farms, with more biosecurity precautions, more airlocks and sterility, and they'll be more regulations that end up favoring these huge scale producers even more than they do today. That is how we have ALWAYS reacted to perceived zoonotic threats.

As it was, he did a deal with a blancmange, and the blancmange ate his wife.


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That's what I think is going to happen also (0.00 / 0)
I don't think they'll take the correct "preventive" route. I predict they'll just create more monsters and I'll be sitting here banging my head against the wall when it's not exploding.

I think it was in today's Grist article that mentioned workers testing positive for antibodies, so it is traveling (the swine flu not the combo one iirc) I was looking at the shedding as more of a breeding ground type of situation when you consider how many pigs they are vaccinating etc. That's a lot of shedding! I'd be interested to know more about carriers with this one.


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