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My First Container Garden - Volume Two

by: Ellinorianne

Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 08:33:19 AM PDT


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Cross posted at the OC Progressive

It was a busy weekend, we got a lot of our Garden done on Saturday.  It started with a non-gardening adventure at Chuck-e-Cheese with Charlotte.  She picked out a harmonica with her tickets, she carries it everywhere and calls it her instrument.  

So then after that we went to Ganahl Lumber, here's Gary among all the wood, it was insanely huge and quite intimidating but everything was easy to find.

Ellinorianne :: My First Container Garden - Volume Two
We decided to go with 1x8 for the dimensions and they were kind enough to cut it for us free of charge (They carried up to 20 foot long pieces).  We also decided to do two boxes, both 4x3 feet.  I measured our backyard area for the garden beds and it made the most sense for the space we had.

Charlotte points to the 1x8 non treated cedar that we chose to build our box from.  Cedar repels bugs and stands up pretty well over time.  I can't tell you how exiciting the whole process was for her.  

We bought some nails as well and the total coast for the wood and nails was $50.  Not bad for two beds since the very nice ones online are as much as $250 each!  

Our next stop was right next door actually at the Laguna Hills Nursery.  It was perfect and I knew we needed to get our soil.  But I got schooled, let me tell you by a wonderful employee named Gary.  He took the time to talk to me etc.

His first suggestion was to buy sand.  Don't bother with the expensive soils since it would have to be replaced every six months to a year.  Didn't know that, never heard of sand as a means to grow vegetables.  I told him about gravel as our bottom layer for drainage and he said, nope sand.  It's finer, it will drain better and your plants will flourish.

Sand?  Well, I knew right off Gary being sincere because well, he wasn't trying to sell me anything they had at their store.  And it was a third cheaper than their soil that they had in stock.  Gary took the time to explain to me about studies he'd read and personal success he'd had with using sand.  His suggestion was to use washed plaster sand and then put a topsoil over it.   Since we didn't have our compost ready, it would allow us to plant right away.  As the topsoil degrades we can continue to ad our own compost.

I also asked about marigolds.  He also said that from what he had read, it's a wash between the space you use to plant the marigolds and if you plant more vegetable instead.  You see, you have to use room in order plant your marigolds and if you plant more veggies, you get about the same amount of food in the end.  Does that make sense?  So since we have so little room, we decided against marigolds to guard off pests.

While we were there Charlotte insisted on corn.  Not sure how well that's going to do but it did say it was for the "urban gardener".   So we bought corn and Gary, my husband, picked out some herbs.  He's the resident cook, we've got to keep the cook happy.  So he got some basil, cilantro and mint.  We also had Charlotte's green beans to plant.  

So, we didn't spend much at all at the nursery but we knew we would be back.  They have gardening classes (Free of charge) and anything we might need in the future, we were so impressed with how willing they were to help us and how patient Gary was with my questions.

The next stop?  Lowes.  Um, sand is very heavy.  We actually bought a lower amount than we thought we would need.  Cubic feet is a pain in the ass to calculate and I knew for the whole thing if we wanted to fill our garden boxes, the total cubic feet per box would be around 24 12 cubic feet.  We didn't want to do the whole thing with sand though and we started off with a modest amount of just 8 bags.  Each bag was half a cubic foot and FIFTY pounds.  My GOD. :)

So if we did 4 inches it in theory we would need 24 bags!  What?  I must suck at this math stuff.  I figured out cubic footage out by multiplying 36 inches by 48 inches and then by 2/3's since our sides went up only 8 inches, 2/3's of a foot.  That gives 24 cubic square feet, if we just go with 4 inches of sand, that would be 12 cubic square feet.


h/t Ernest T Bass

36 inches is 3 feet
48 inches is 4 feet

Your container is 3 feet x 4 feet = 12 square feet

You want to fill it with 4 inches of sand?

4 inches of sand is one-third of a foot.

12 square feet multiplied by one-third of a foot is 4 cubic feet.

You would need 4 cubic feet of sand.

WE actually only used 5 bags of sand.  We didn't pack it down, so I'm wondering if that was an issue.  How could our measurements be so far off!  I know someone here will explain it to me.  Must I remind you I was an English Major and a Film Minor?

We then purchased some organic top soil.  Yes, I went with the brand name, which wasn't expensive.   Between the soil and the sand we spent just $22 per container with a grand total of $47.

Can you tell we're seriously winging this!  But we had it all put together and then realized, does this get enough sun?  Does anywhere in our backyard get enough sun?  It was frustrating.  So, we only put one garden box together (Gary did the hammering I helped hold the wood together, it took just ten minutes) and decided to try another spot for the other garden bed to see what does best.  We're holding off until we have more to plant.

Here is the end result with sand and top soil...

Seems a bit anti-climatic but Charlotte was thrilled.  I was tired and sore (What was I thinking carrying a fifty pound bag of sand?) and Gary wanted to plant something RIGHT NOW.

I waited until the next morning to do the actual planting but awoke with a migraine so Gary and Charlotte planted our veggies and herbs and did quite a nice job at it.

When Charlotte got home from school we watered our "garden" and Charlotte played her "instrument" for the plants afterwards.  Yes she did.  It made her happy and it certainly didn't hurt the plants.  Our neighbors might start to complain though.

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good luck.. (4.00 / 8)
where are you?

I'm outside Philadelphia and we still may have frost so I am holding out planting veggies


Southern California (4.00 / 8)
So not an issue for us right now.

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omg cute kid!!!! nt (4.00 / 8)


"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

Thank you (4.00 / 7)
She's such a sweet one too.  We're lucky to know her :)

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by the way (4.00 / 5)
You might want to buy some compost before your own is ready. I've tried raising herbs in pots before and mixing in some compost w the soil made ALL the difference. I had huge, flourishing plants when I used the compost. I planted thyme, oregano, basil, catnip, parsley, cilantro, and stevia. If I did it again I'd add mint (like you) and skip on catnip and stevia.

"I can understand someone from Iowa promoting corn and soy, but we are not feeding the world, we are feeding animals and soft drink companies." - Jim Goodman

funny thing about herbs, though. (4.00 / 1)
Most culinary herbs are from the Med. basin area, where they grow in pretty lean soil. They look better in rich soil, but they don't always taste better.

Some need pretty poor soils to have high amounts of the essential oils we like the for; my guess would be that they have higher amounts of those oils to help protect them given the lack of nutrients.


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It's a good thing you're growing mint in a container (4.00 / 5)
That stuff spreads faster than certifigate rumors.

I wish I knew half what the flock of them know
Of where all the berries and other things grow,
Cranberries in bogs and raspberries on top
Of the boulder-strewn mountain, and when they will crop.
--"Blueberries" by Robert Frost


a tip for containing mint in gardens (0.00 / 0)
I have a huge amount of space to fill so I use mint all over my flower beds.I take one of plastic pots that you get when you buy plants. Cut out the bottom and bury it in your bed. Then plant the mint inside the pot and it grows UP and doesn't spread..

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There is something so special about that (4.00 / 4)
Thanks again for sharing! What a special mother/daughter project and I have the best hopes for your garden. I used that same organic choice fertilizer for most of my stuff (the other stuff was just out of my price range) I mixed in the orange bag that's called "soil amender" I have a lot of clay soil here and that stuff is supposed to help break it down. I also mixed in perlite and vermiculite... I think the organic choice has both of those in it already (but I didn't know at the time, It def. has perlite, which is the little white pieces, they help with drainage)

I like what your nursery guy said about the marigolds, they are taking up some valuable real estate in my garden, as is the fennel and lemon balm I bought for the pest resistance. I was looking at the fields of strawberries and artichokes down in Castroville today. They plant companion flowers with the chokes. But I believe they use them as an indicator, because the bugs will attack the flowers first.


We couldn't have (4.00 / 4)
done it without Gary, my husband, he did the heavy lifting, literally!  

But it is quite a project.  I'm thinking maybe of doing the marigolds edges, maybe, still mulling it over.  We could always do another container, it wasn't a bank breaker.

I started my seedlings today, I got free seeds from a friend.  Cucumbers, beets, cauliflower, swiss char, carrots, spinach, tomatoes, broccoli and eggplant!  I bought biodegradable little seedling pots and potting soil.  They are sitting in our little kitchen window.  Can't wait to plant them!

So it's been fun, fun, fun.  I never thought I'd enjoy it so much!


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Oh ya - Sorry :) (4.00 / 3)
Correction- What a great mother-father-daughter project! Sorry Gary for the oversight!

Seeds are really fun and the best deal by a mile. One tip, don't try and use a whole seed pack at once. I did that and am now trying to figure out what to do with about 250 extra seedlings.


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If it's a member of the mint family (4.00 / 3)
that you want to grow:

Go with tip cuttings.  Mints usually have kind of square stems and the stems usually are a bit "hairy."  Each of those hairs is capable of setting out roots.  And usually you don't even need root growth hormone...just don't try to root them in wet soil ("moist" is the key word).

Mint family includes so many herbs...try a Google search if you aren't sure.

The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been found. -- Calvin Trillin


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