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Chickens and caring for chicks

by: Joanne Rigutto

Sun Mar 15, 2009 at 21:42:27 PM PDT


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(Joanne's Advice On Chicks!  Tons of advice, and great pics - promoted by JayinPortland)

Heritage chickens are great! Actually if you buy chickens from the feed store as day old chicks, what you'll get are heritage breeds. Barred Rocks, Rhode Island Reds, Buff Orpingtons, Black Astralorps, Wyandots, Aracaunnas, all are heritage breeds.

Feed stores generally buy from the large hatcheries like Dunlop and Murray McMurray, which are supplied by people breeding the heritage breeds. You can get commercial breeds, generally the meat breed called a Cornish Cross, I don't think that this is a heritage breed but I could be wrong.

Joanne Rigutto :: Chickens and caring for chicks

 White hen eggs and colored hen eggs - The Little Homestead farm March 2009


Eggs from various breeds. White eggs from White Leghorns and California Whites, Brown/Buff eggs from Golden Laced Wyandot and Black Astralorp, Blue/Greenish eggs from Aracauna.

If you buy from the feed store, check the rear end of the chick to make sure it's clean, and buy a chicks that are nice and active and attentive of their surroundings, they should be a bit difficult to catch, even if approached carefully.

Aside from that, some things to take into consideration are -

~ If you're buying for egg production, don't buy Cornish Cross. Those are meat birds and probably won't be able to survive long enough to reach egg laying age. Been there, done that...

~ White Leghorns are a commercial layer variety as well as being a heritage breed. I think that California Whites are a commercial laying chicken, but are a cross between a White Leghorn and a California Gray. Both are proliffic layers, lay white eggs, are extremely intelligent and easy to work with. That having been said, they're both really squirelly and they can fly like a falcon, and love to do so. Their motto seems to be 'To boldly go where no chicken has gone before'. We have these birds as our primary layers right now, and 6-8 of them have decided that they prefer roosting 15 feet up in the apple tree in our back yard as opposed to roosting like all the other 'normal' chickens in the coops.

 Chickens up a tree - The Little Homestead farm March 2009

~ The other breeds I've mentioned, while definately being flighted, aren't as likely to just 'hop' over the fences when ever the mood strikes them. Most heritage breeds other than the White Legorns and California Whites will lay brown eggs, and the Aracaunnas will lay green and pale blue eggs.

There are many breeds of chickens, and it's fascinating to spend some time at the breeders' websites. Of course, you could also get ahold of your local 4H or FFA and see if any of the kids have any chicks for sale. Also, unless you're intending to breed and sell chicks, there isn't any reason you have to have purebred birds either.

If you get chicks, don't expect eggs untill sometime in the fall or even winter. Our California Whites came in March or April of last year, and we didn't see our first egg untill late fall, and then of course they all had to molt - it was that time of the year - and so quit laying as soon as they had started. Then when it got cold of course they didn't lay. So we didn't start to see dependable egg production untill a month or so ago. So for those birds, it was 10 months, more or less. Of course now they're all laying like gangbusters, except the hen who's setting.

If you want eggs right away, you could check your local paper, or a 4H or FFA kid might be wanting to sell their laying stock. You'll pay more for the individual birds, but you'll probably spend the difference in price between a chick and a grown bird in feed anyway, and when you buy chicks, you may get stuck with a rooster even if you buy pullets (hen chicks only). We ordered our California Whites from a hatchery in Missouri. We ordered 25 pullets, received 27 chicks 5 of which turned out to be cockerels (rooster chicks).

When you get your chicks, be they from the feed store or in the mail directly from the hatchery, you will need to handle them with care.

When we get chicks this time of the year we keep them in the house in a box with a lamp over them. I currently have 29 chicks in the house - we got 10 Silver Laced Wyandots, 10 Golden Laced Wyandots and 10 Aracauna. Lost one of the Wyandots the other day, but getting day old chicks that's a risk you take.

 Chickens up a tree - The Little Homestead farm March 2009

I have mine in a 2' X 3' plastic tub that is 6-8 inches deep. It's actually one of those small mud (mortar) mixing boxes you find at Home Depot. I put hay on the bottom of the tub, and wire mesh over the tub to keep the chicks from getting out. It's also handy to hold the lamp up. The bulb I'm using is a regular 40 watt incandescent bulb. Don't use those fancy spirally lumenescent bulbs, they don't put out any heat. If you use a regular heat lamp bulb you'll want it to be a foot above the chicks. You can check to see if it's at the proper distance by the chicks' behavior. If they stay huddled, lower the lamp a few inches every 15 minutes until they spread out. If they start spread out, raise it a bit untill they come under it but don't huddle.

When you get your chicks, for the first day, give them warm water. The chicks are shipped with no food or water, and that's fine. They can survive the ammount of time it takes to get to you with no problems as long as the post office or shipper don't dally. But they will be a little chilled when you get them, so a heat lamp and warm water are the order of the day.

I think the instructions we got said not to feed newly delivered chicks the first day, just to give them warm water, and I think it called for there to be a bit of sugar added to the water. If you get them from the feed store, they will already be eating starter crumbles. When you do feed them, you want to start them on a medicated chick starter. Buy a small bag if you're just getting a few chicks. The feed will have an antibiotic in it that will keep the chicks from getting sick with coccidia and other bacterial pathogens. Once they've gone through the medicated feed you shouldn't ever need to give them antibiotics again, and you certainly don't if you're eating the eggs.

For bedding, lots of people use shavings, and others use paper. I like nice clean grass hay. It's cheap, you can probably get some for free from your feed store. Just tell them why you need some and they very well may give you a box or a bag and tell you to go out and scoop some of the loose stuff off of the floor. Shavings can be dusty, although the hay can be too. But I don't like the way the shavings are easily kicked into the chicks' water. Chicks will start scratching before they're a week old and it's a lot harder to scratch long hay into a waterer, and even if a piece does get in here and there it won't fowl the water like shavings will. Paper, I don't like because it can be slick and if a waterer gets knocked over, your chicks can easily get wet and chilled. If there's hay for bedding, they're more liable to be held up out of the spilled water by it. Hay also gives them something to pick at. I used to raise upland game birds and chukar, quail and pheasant are terrible toe pickers. Chickens aren't so bad, but it still gives 'em something more interesting than the neighbors' toes.

Also, when you order, if you buy direct from the hatchery, pay the little bit extra that it costs to have them vaccinated against Mereck's Disese. I think it costs 75 cents, and is cheap insurance.

When your chicks are a month or so old, you can move them into an outdoor enclosure on sunny, warm days. Always make sure that they have a heated area that is sheltered from drafts and rain. You'll also want to make sure that the netting you use is small enough that the little guys and gals can't escape. I usually let them out during the day and then bring them in at night unless our little brooder shed is available. I'll do this for a couple of weeks and then start letting them stay out doors 24/7 as long as they still have a nice warm sheltered area to sleep in and shelter in if a shower comes by.

While the chicks are in the house you should clean their brooder every couple of days. I usually pick them up and put them in a different container for the few minutes it takes to clean out the brooder and put in new bedding. This will keep the chicks clean and healthy, and it will also acclimate them to you and to being handled. This will make it a lot easier to work with your hens if you let them out of their coop when they are older, and it will help you to move them to outdoor quarters off and on as you harden them off. It'll keep them from being unduely stressed if you have to handle them for any other reason, or even if you need to reach in to pull eggs out from under them.

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A note about heat lamps and incandescent bulbs (4.00 / 9)
They get hot, especially the heat lamps. Great care should be taken to keep the bulbs and their housing from coming into contact with anything flamable. And, of course, never use a lamp that is bigger than what the housing/socket is rated for.

In the pic above, you can see that the lamp I have is shifted over to the corner of the brooder box. I did that to take the picture, normally the lamp would be moved more toward the middle of the wide wire. The finer mesh is too weak to hold the lamp up. In the past when we've hatched emu eggs, and had the chicks in the bathtub, I hung the heat lamp from the shower curtain rod, but that's a story for another diary.....

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Some says it's better to have the lamp to the side (4.00 / 3)
That way you have warmer & cooler areas, so the chicks can pick the spot with the best temperature. If they cluster at one end or the other, you know that you have it too hot/cold.

[ Parent ]
Excellent, thanks! (4.00 / 5)
Can you spare a few eggs, Joanne?

:)

"The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks." - Christopher Hitchens


Sure (4.00 / 5)
Are you lookin' to eat or do you want to hatch 'em?

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....

[ Parent ]
Oh, I'd like both! (4.00 / 3)
But my current apartment is tiny.  Inner SE, not much room and a pretty "unworkingwithable" property management company - you may be familiar with the 'hood.  Creston-Kenilworth.

For now, I'd have to go with eat.  In the future?  Who knows...

:)

"The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks." - Christopher Hitchens


[ Parent ]
asdf (4.00 / 3)
You'd keep parrots inside, right? You can keep a couple bantam hens in an extra large dog crate indoors.

[ Parent ]
Jay shoot me an email (4.00 / 3)
jo@jrigutto.com

I can get some eggs to you and I'd like to talk to you about something.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
great essay!! (4.00 / 5)
thanks!!
i'm thinking about getting just a couple more (maybe 6-8) chickens this year. we now have 2 chickens
1-aracauna~ Henny:
(i just love her poofy cheecks!)
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who gives me lovely blue eggs
BLUE EGGS

1-cuckooo maran~ Looney
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and 2 roosters (breed-who knows?)
Chant-a-lot:
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Dulce:
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it's time to separate the roosters... Chant-a-lot is starting to chase Dulce now so we'll be setting up another hen-cage/house.
i just can't decide what to get tho. they only sell rhode island reds at the local feed store.... & the local-ish chicken-men, well i'm NOT impressed with their establishments. so i'm considering mcmurray's. do you know if they'll sell just a few bitty's? or will i have to buy 25?
because i would like 1-2 more aracaunas & 1-2 cuckoos & maybe 3-4 bantams for Dulce. how many hens can i put per rooster? would 4 be enough?


come firefly-dreaming with me....


RiaD, do you have any friends (4.00 / 5)
you could split the order with? We bought NH reds, black sex-links and Buff Orpingtons from these folks but, as the site says, "THE ORDER MUST TOTAL 15 CHICKS TO PROVIDE ENOUGH BODY HEAT WARMTH DURING TRANSIT."

You might be better off going the 4h kid route, as the diarist has suggested elsewhere (I think it was her, anyhow). Call your local ag extension and ask for the 4H person, who might well know which kids will have chicks for sale.  


[ Parent ]
If you can bear to part with them when they are half grown (4.00 / 5)
Consider buying 15 mail order, and then selling the extras.

You should have seen the look on their faces when some farmers came into the suburbs to buy chickens. They just knew they got the directions wrong.


[ Parent ]
Thanks RiaD (4.00 / 5)
Those are beautiful chickens. Your Aracauna looks like a cross between our dark brown and buff ones. I love the Aracaunas, especially with the cheeks and the beard.

Harold just came from one of the feed stores. 12 Barred Rocks and a lone Rhode Island Red, all pullets. So we're up to 41 chicks in the 'brooder room', formerly Harold's office....  ;-)

Those combined with the 42 eggs I have in the incubator, and what ever Her Ladyship hatches, will pretty max us out on stocking rate here for chickens. It'll be nice to be able to deliver a mix of white, brown and green/blue eggs. They all taste the same, but people like getting the mix.

Regarding locavores as elitists - explain to me how supporting local business is elitist....


[ Parent ]
You missed my favorite breed, Dominiques ;) (4.00 / 4)
I always enjoy a good chicken post.

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